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awkwardpause101 at 2024-03-08 12:28:19+00:00 ID: ktz22nh
This is some years ago, so the rules may have changed, but I remember when my US gf came to stay with me in CPH, that when the 90 days were almost up we went to the immigration office and had her permit extended by another 90 days (but that was as much as we could get -- after that she had to leave). Maybe worth looking into?
Gubbi_94 at 2024-03-08 12:43:07+00:00 ID: ktwnpa4
No. It’s 90 days in a 180 day rolling period. If you stay here 90 days (including entry and exit day) you have to wait 90 days before you’re allowed re entry. These 90 days include all days in the Schengen zone except days you were a resident (not applicable to you I assume). If you’ve been to Denmark in the last 90 days, those also count until the rolling period has passed.
You should make sure you understand these rules well, and follow them, as breaking them may have severe impact on your ability to obtain residency later.
Edit: bilateral agreement with US and some other countries means that the 90 day period might only apply to the stay in Denmark, not the Schengen zone. Other Schengen countries might not have such bilateral agreements and the days spent in Denmark may therefore still count for stays there.
Distinct-Okra-6026 (OP) at 2024-03-08 12:32:05+00:00 ID: ktwo4r1
If I'm in Denmark for a month then leave somewhere else for a month and come back I still have 60 days left right?
GeronimoDK at 2024-03-08 12:33:15+00:00 ID: ktwo9je
Yes.
Gubbi_94 at 2024-03-08 12:52:45+00:00 ID: ktwqlmc
Yes, and you’d then have to wait 60 days before you would be allowed back here for another 30.
rasm3000 at 2024-03-08 12:23:38+00:00 ID: ktwn604
The Schengen visa rules are made so border runs aren't a thing/not possible. You can stay visa-free for 90 days, leave Schengen, wait 90 days, and then come back for another 90 day period. My guess is that the immigration officer either didn't know the rules (not uncommon), or you misunderstood the person.
Distinct-Okra-6026 (OP) at 2024-03-08 12:31:12+00:00 ID: ktwo15j
Kinda bizzare he didn't know the rules if he's the one who decides whether to let me enter or not. I told him I thought it was only possible 90 days every 180 and he said I just have to prove I left Denmark. Very strange
GeronimoDK at 2024-03-08 12:38:21+00:00 ID: ktwov3e
The US and Denmark has a bilateral agreement which means that US citizens can stay in Denmark up to 90 days after spending up to 90 days somewhere else in the Schengen area.
But I don't think you can do what the officer said, the 90 in 180 days rules should still apply.
https://www.nyidanmark.dk/en-GB/Applying/Short%20stay%20visa/Visa%20free%20visits
Citizens of certain countries are entitled to stay in Denmark for 90 days or 3 months, regardless of stays in other Schengen countries.
Citizens of Australia, Canada, Chile, Israel, Japan, Malaysia, New Zealand, Singapore, South Korea and the US can freely enter and stay in Denmark for the following periods, regardless of whether they have stayed in another Schengen country prior to entry into Denmark.
Nationals of the United States of America (USA) and New Zealand may stay in Denmark for up to 3 months reckoned from the date of their first entry into Denmark. The time the foreign national has stayed in Denmark within 6 months preceding any such entry shall be deducted from the mentioned 3 months.
Distinct-Okra-6026 (OP) at 2024-03-08 12:44:16+00:00 ID: ktwpkds
Thank you! That's actually really helpful. I've never been to Europe for this long so I'm not familiar with the rules. But let's say after 90 days in denmark I go to another schengen country. There's no border control between the countries right? So if I wanted to go back to Denmark how would they know if I left or re-entered? I'd have to fly in instead of taking trains?
GeronimoDK at 2024-03-08 12:52:23+00:00 ID: ktwqjzx
And that's why those agreements are kind of shitty, when leaving it could come down to whether the agent knows about these agreements or not and maybe even if you can prove that you've actually been in another country, maybe even have a printout of the linked page on hand.
If you start out in Denmark and then go to another country, you have to observe if that other country has a similar agreement, because if not you'd have been overstaying! You could do it the other way around however, stay in another country and then come to Denmark for up to 90 days.
Or better yet, visit the UK, Ireland, most of the Balkan countries, Turkey (non-Schengen areas) just to be sure you don't meet some agent who's going to hold you back and make you miss your flight.
It's better to be safe and allowed to leave than to be right and miss your flight.
If you do decide to take advantage of the agreement I would suggest you arrive early at the airport, just in case!
Distinct-Okra-6026 (OP) at 2024-03-08 13:23:17+00:00 ID: ktwukfr
Makes sense thanks for all the help 🙏