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micromobility - Ebikes, scooters, longboards: Whatever floats your goat, this is micromobility

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Ebikes, bicycles, scooters, skateboards, longboards, eboards, motorcycles, skates, unicycles: Whatever floats your goat, this is all things micromobility!

"Transportation using lightweight vehicles such as bicycles or scooters, especially electric ones that may be borrowed as part of a self-service rental program in which people rent vehicles for short-term use within a town or city.

micromobility is seen as a potential solution to moving people more efficiently around cities"

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Here's the thing: falling off your bike is dangerous but not as dangerous as being hit by a car. A significant number of biking accidents are someone being drove over.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_ 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you get hit by a car, you could be hitting your head a lot harder than you would on a normal fall, so it could also be argued that makes helmets more important.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think my point is to note that the real danger comes from drivers and that bicycling isn't inherently so dangerous.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_ 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There's some danger, but yeah, nowhere near the level of danger that motor vehicles pose. I wear a helmet even if I'm not going on roads though because why not?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I agree--I have always worn a helmet too. Then you look at places like Amsterdam where tens of thousands of people commute daily on bikes with no trouble, but I also guess that they have protected vias.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The pain reflex is a good way to learn pretty much anything. Tried and test for ~3 billion years.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_ 1 points 10 months ago

Pretty sure head injuries can impair learning, provided you survive of course.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

People will put on some shorts, a tanktop and some flip-flops, get on their bike, and ride similar speeds to that of someone on a motorbike wearing full safety gear. All while surrounded by vehicles which weigh tonnes and with the most likely surface their head will hit being the curb or some concrete. It's stupid.

I mean, seriously. Hit your self in the head with a brick or an iron bar. You're likely to hurt yourself badly even if you do it lightly, let alone full force.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_ 1 points 10 months ago

People do that with full on superbikes lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Curious that this story doesn't mention the cause of these accidents. Is there another vehicle involved? Maybe a much larger one that can seat 5 people?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (18 children)

An e-bike is a motorcycle in everything but name and highway-worthiness. It's honestly a little bonkers how long it took for this conversation to come up. I do think there's a bit of an odd feeling strapping on a motorbike helmet when you're getting on what you think of as a bicycle, and it probably doesn't help that motorcycle helmets are bulky and a PITA to carry around if you're using your e-bike as a commuter. Those are all addressable solutions, though.

Probably the fastest/cheapest way to affect a change would be to set a top speed for eBikes operating in public areas as bicycles. Speed kills, and keeping people from doing practically 30 mph in the bike lane would probably be a good place to start. I'm not talking about handing out tickets as much as having manufacturers govern their top speeds down. After that, public health campaigns.

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