Ask them if they'd be willing to adopt the Euro and allow access to the Schengen zone and I'm curious if that number would still be the same. I don't think Brits realize they're not gonna get the sweetheart deal they used to have.
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We don't want you back.
Honestly, after the way we behaved during and after Brexit (the moment that sticks out in my memory is Farage and Widdecombe smugly waving those little Union Jack flags while the head of the EU repeatedly told them to shut up) I completely understand and I don't think we really deserve it either.
My position since before the vote was to remain, and that to leave the EU is a completely idiotic thing to do, and my stance has not changed at all. I'd love for us to be a part of the EU again someday, but I'd hope we could rejoin in good faith, not to just try and waltz back in like the own the place, grudgingly hang around until we unfuck our economy and then try to Brexit again and fuck everyone around in 10 years or so, which I fear is where our current government would take us.
Yep. I'm certain we'll rejoin eventually, and as much as I'd love it to be soon, people need to genuinely believe the EU is beneficial and want to participate, or what's even the point? And to get there, we're going to have to go through some pain for a while.
Even when the UK will rejoin it will be painful. The UK had a LOT of special priviliges that were denied other countries within the Union they will not receive a second time
But I would like the UK back for easier travel lol
It should be a whole EU vote. Not just UK and EU's country leaders.
Any member can veto as it stands today
I'm not educated enough in this topic to have an opinion of value but I think it's hilarious that you want a referendum to decide while this fuckup of astronomical proportion happened due to a referendum.
Hmm maybe we could require the vote to be unanimous
I don't believe it. Some right wing politician will say that the EU wants to ban fish and chips and then they will all vote against.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. These people are so short sighted they'd walk nose-first into a brick wall.
It's too late to just change your minds now. Had that chance the whole 3+ years we spent sitting on Article 20. Had all the ramifications spelt out in front of you. Only now they've git a bruised nose do they start turning going, "maybe that was a bad idea".
God I hate the influence America has had on British politics.
Brexit and Trump are cut from the same cloth. Right-wing, lazy, authoritarian propagandists.
Brexit and Trump were both (successful) Russian operations undertaken to destabilize the West.
You give too much credit for our (Russian) leaders wit. I'd rather suspect brexit to be a product of power hunger of your own politician.
God I hate the influence America has had on British politics.
That's interesting you think such closed-minded, right wing people are limited to the US and that mentality was "exported" or "influenced".
I got news for you, people are people wherever there are people. This isn't influence of one country over the other. Give me a population, I'll show you right wingers, left wingers, and centrists. The Brits who voted for Brexit were as inherently racist and zenophobic as any of those good ol' boys in the South of the US (or other regions, it's not limited to that one).
No country or people are special, we're all the same.
The older, ever-Tories were always going to vote Brexit, no matter what. Trumpism, however, played into the hands of a lot of younger people who themselves later admitted, as many of us know such people, that they really had no business voting the way they did - many went on to vote Tory for the first time ever & can't really point at anything that makes sense to them right now. They got played by Cummings & Cambridge Analytica. It's even on Cummings' blog, if he has not taken it down. So there is validity to both angles but the combination is what sealed it.
