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Allman is very practical for JSON
this post was submitted on 10 Feb 2024
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Allman is the way.
Always Allman. Those others give you cancer
Allman all the way.
Finally, someone understands that Allman is not that great, and that Kernighan & Ritchie is the way to go. Also, Haskell, my guy, you good? Lisp, are you ok? Do I need to call your parents?
Do I need to call your parens*
Allman all the way baybeeee
I've written Haskell quite a bit, and I don't fully understand why this is called Haskell style. Haskell code looks nothing like this, the syntax is completely different. For Haskell's syntax I think it works fine, because I never noticed something weird. But this code in "Haskell style" looks absolutely insane
It's sometimes called comma-leading style where you move all the special characters to the front of the line and it is exceedingly common in Haskell, possibly due to how Haskell treats significant whitespace. You've surely seen list definitions that look like this:
someList =
[ 1
, 2
, 3
]
or a data definition like this:
data Color
= Red
| Green
| Blue
| RGB Int Int Int
deriving (Show, Eq)
or a list of module exports like this:
module Foo
{ bar
, baz
, quux
}
Or in a long function type declaration where the arrows are moved to the start of the line, or a record definition, etc. etc.
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All of those are heretical. The one True Language is Brainfuck, where the coding syntax for Hello World is
++++++++[>++++[>++>+++>+++>+<<<<-]>+>+>->>+[<]<-]>>.>---.+++++++..+++.>>.<-.<.+++.------.--------.>>+.>++.
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Allman looks fine to me. But I'm a C# dev so maybe I'm just used to it.
It's not my favorite but it's fine.
Allman changes the way I code. I avoid using imperative constructs so much more because they waste so much more space on my screen.
No line breaks. Just one long line of code.
All line breaks. Just one tower of code.
class
HelloWorld
{
public
static
void
main(String[]
args)
{
System.out.println("Hello,
World!");
}
}
as always, c++ lets us do better in breathtakingly elegant fashion:
#\
i\
n\
c\
l\
u\
d\
e\
\
<\
i\
o\
s\
t\
r\
e\
a\
m\
>
finishing out hello world is left as an exercise to the reader, but the advantages and superior performance of this format should be obvious
why not
...
System
.out
.println(
"Hello,
...
?
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Tell me you're a Java developer without telling me you're a Java developer.
Noone writes Haskell like that. People generate Haskell like that because layout syntax is a fickle beast to generate and outputting braces means you can make mistakes in layout without breaking things, the way the braces and semicolons are output emphasise how they actually don't matter, they're also easy to delete in a text editor.
Also it matches up with other Haskellisms, e.g. lists:
let foo = [ bar
, baz
, quux
]
See how it's immediately apparent that you didn't miss a single comma? It's also trivial to match up opening and closing brackets like that, even in deeply nested situations.
Not doing that is actually my main pet peeve with Rust's standard formatting.
Allman is the only other one that has some sanity.
That's not Lisp...
(while (== x y)
(func1)
(func2)
)
What kind of monster writes lisp with the closing bracket on its own line.
Allman is objective the correct choice
People code like that????
People indent braces more than the line before and less than the line after?
Words cannot express my displeasure
Looking at them all, I don't hate whitesmiths. Keeps all the associated block on one line which makes it a bit easier to parse
If you have ADHD, your coding style is a combination of all of these, and sometimes none of the above.
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I use Allman for control statements and K&R for declarations
oh so you hate Richard stallman?
Based
Some of those made me physically ill.
Like. You do WHAT with your whitespace?!
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Go is a very opinionated language which is why I was so lucky for their opinion on this (and other things) to agree with mine.
Allmans what I learnt then went to K&R on my own because it made more sense to me. I think GNU is fine I guess, not the others though. Not that what I say matters I've forgotten how to code and can barely do Hello World these days.
The eternal holy wars rage on
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