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It might be a minority view, but I loved Jonas Quinn's character! Why? Because he made Teal'c a fully fledged [/edit] character. The both of them interacted so well. Teal'c was part of the main cast since episode one, but he never felt like a real person with their own emotions until season 6.

Christopher Judge is an incredible actor, but until Corin Nemec came along he wasn't allowed to be a whole person with their own agenda. Even small stuff, like not sharing his ice cream in "Prometheus" / "Unnatural Selection", would have been unthinkable before Jonas came along.

I think, retrospectively, telling Jonas to ~~fuck off~~ be with his people when Daniel came back hurt the series in the long run. Corin was a good actor, and Jonas was a good character.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

I always really enjoyed Jonas too. When he first arrived I really missed Daniel Jackson, but I missed Jonas more when he was gone than I ever did Daniel.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It’s fully fledged (like a bird), not fully fletched (like an arrow), FYI

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oops, English is my second language, and I never realized that "fledged" and "fletched" are different words. :) You never stop learning, thanks!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

I’m glad I wasn’t more snarky, then! I’m impressed by anyone who speaks multiple languages!

[–] LopensLeftArm 7 points 6 months ago

"Are you suggesting an alien conspiracy?"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

I also liked Jonas Quinn, but it took a second rewatch to get over the guy wrenching despair I endured at Daniel’s death/ascension. Absolutely gutted me, I was too mad to enjoy Jonas after that. But after the second time I agree, Teal’c became more with him than he did when Daniel was part of the team. Part of me wonders if it was intentional on the writers part, like “oh we have this big gap where character was, let’s fill it with two characters instead of just replacing one”? Or if it was just kind of naturally their interactions were more fluid.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Also, he managed to beat Teal'c at boxing.

That one time, and was never brought up again.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

I fell in love with Daniel in the theatrical movie, and I was upset when he left the show. And Jonas just felt so incredibly disrespectful, like they were trying to insert a Daniel clone into this raw empty space. I really hated that. If they'd given him some other specialty, made him a different physical type, something. But they didn't, and I hated Jonas.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

I wished Jonas was utilized better after season 6. Obviously the return of Michael Shanks trumps Corin, but Jonas was such a fresh character that help push the exposition along.

However, if you look at Corin Nemec's twitter account, the dude is a bit of a nutjob.

[–] mindbleach 1 points 6 months ago

Shanks leaving and returning had a complicated impact on the show. AFAIK, he wanted better opportunities to act - and they just would not give him any. So he got to exit with exactly the kind of complex episode he asked for. The showrunners evidently took this to heart, and started making the show more like want he expected, y'know, after he left.

In comes the same-purpose-different-character replacement, whom contemporary audiences rankled against for not being Daniel. But yeah: Jonas is distinct, well-written, and well-acted. He gets some really fun bits in some solid episodes. (I always think of the diner scene in Nightwalkers.) He would've easily been a beloved replacement... if he'd had one more season. Maybe if Shanks had seen better success outside of Stargate. But just about none of the actors in any of these series had stellar careers outside the franchise. It's like Jason Momoa snuck off with a bag full of everybody's prospects.

So Daniel comes back, and it's a whole thing, and suddenly he's getting episodes like Lifeboat. He gets to flex, in every sense of the word. Not just him, either; Judge wrote The Changeling himself, in the middle of season six. The show ultimately benefited from Shanks calling the studio's bluff and leaving. He even got to come back and enjoy the benefits. But wow did Corin Nemac get screwed in that exchange.