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This community does not affirm practiced LGBTQ+ lifestyles

Rule 8 of this community is in clear breach of the first goal from the lemmy/mastodon.world code of conduct

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Calm down people. It is deleted.

Edit: they can repeal this decision. If they remove that line from their rules and live by it we are up to having normal conversations even if we don't agree with the viewpoints.

But our stance on LGBQT is clearly laid out in the instance rules. We want to provide an inclusive platform. There are enough LGBTQ people who are christians.

EDIT: The community's moderator/owner hasn't been online in over a month. If anyone wants to take over this community and make it follow the Lemmy World rules then contact me.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sometimes I think you guys are really managing dumpsters on fire

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Such is internet janitor duty. Doesn't help they're both janitors, tech support, and management, I imagine it's quite the handful.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Writing this from my car before going into an appointment with customers πŸ˜…

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago
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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (25 children)

To play devil's advocate (pun not intended), this community poses an interesting quandary.

When seen in context, their rules do clearly prohibit any hate speech against the LGBTQ+ community:

Rule #5: Remember that we are all fellow image-bearers. We may disagree with people, but we are never to tear down another person’s inherent dignity and value as someone made in the image of God (Imago Dei). This includes those in the LGBTQ+ community. They need Jesus, too, just like we do, and we can’t say we represent Him while we tear down the works of His hands.

Rule #6: Banned subjects include ... Anything calling for direct/indirect violence against any individual or group, including LGBTQ+ individuals or groups; ...

Rule #8: This community does not affirm practiced LGBTQ+ lifestyles, with the exception of the ace/aroace (asexual/aromatic-asexual) lifestyle in certain contexts. However, abuse towards members of the LGBTQ+ community will not be tolerated. Pro-LGBTQ+ content is not allowed; however, sincere questions and discourse about LGTBQ+issues are permitted.

I'd be interested to see the admin's ruling in this case.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago

That's the ol' "hate the sin love the sinner" shtick. It tries to separate homosexuality (the "sin") from homosexuals (the "sinner"). If only they could stop sinning (stop being gay) they would of course be welcome!

Its not just excluding them from church/christian communities, its the theological basis for conversion camps and the like.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Mmm aromatic asexual

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I would think specifically not allowing "pro-LGBTQ+ content" is being pretty bigoted. Just because it is a religious belief does not mean it can't also be bigoted.

~~If this little "loophole" is enough to allow this kind of thing to stay on this instance, I would be worried. But I'll wait and see what the admins have to say about it.~~ Resolved: https://lemmy.world/comment/1455537

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks for posting their rules. Very helpful and informative

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm just here to find out what flavour an aromatic-asexual is

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I think we can tag in the Paradox of Tolerance with a side of Nazi Bar on this one.

This type of "they're intolerant, but polite" shit needs to get nipped in the bud because it metastasizes quickly, and sends out a batsignal to other intolerant groups that this will make a fine home base so long as they hide their power levels.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

This type of β€œthey’re intolerant, but polite” shit needs to get nipped in the bud because it metastasizes quickly

Not only that, if there's a rule about politeness but intolerant people are welcome, the politeness rule becomes a "don't sass the nazis" rule.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Intolerant but polite is a great description of sea lioning.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Hating on LGBTQ like Jesus would have wanted πŸ™πŸ«Ά

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

Being LGBT is not a lifestyle... omg

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