this post was submitted on 18 Jul 2023
899 points (99.0% liked)

Technology

58919 readers
3578 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Image description: Image shows batches 1, 2 and 3 sold out for the Ryzen 7 7840HS which costs $1,399.

For now both DIY and prebuild edition (all configurations) are in batch 4 which ships in late Q4 2023.

(page 2) 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Great to see!

I bought my last laptop a couple months before they started shipping to Australia last year (dang it...), but Framework will be high on the list next time.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Glad to see! I want this to be the future of laptops.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Does Framework do anything regarding FOSS drivers or firmware?

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (19 children)

I do badly want to like these.. but I don't see the point.

Repairability wise mid range ThinkPad is nearly as good. Only major difference is I think Framework claims they will release schematics... and as someone who actually does component level repairs I've seen promises like this work I've or twice, but then they stop maintaining their data or pays get hard to get rendering the gesture null.

Upgrade wise... I switch machines every 4 to 6 years... at which point the chassis has a bit of wear and tear.

Spec wise I buy what I need and add a little headroom with the ThinkPad.

Spare parts are good for ThinkPad and Lenovo actually has component replacement guides that no one seems to mention or know about.

And when I do upgrade I appreciate having a complete spare machine.

I think it's also not unreasonable to assume my style of buying and upgrading is not uncommon.

This leaves the Framework very few hardware advantages and nil price advantages.

I still think they're a great idea, but I don't see any practical benefit over a sensible alternative.

Genuine question... Have I missed anything?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not asking much... Just if they just would add a trackpoint, a decent mechanical keyboard (don't mind if this adds 0.5cm to the thickness) and offer a black chassis... I feel they would really be the new home of former IBM ThinkPad users which are more and more disappointed about Lenovos decisions to try to compete with Macs.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (18 replies)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

thanks. I remember looking at something like this years ago but it was really new and it did not list any parts which turned me off at the time as I want to know I can get parts later. I don't know if this is the same thing or just similar but going to think about getting one of these (when I can)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I bought a framework laptop for my significant other last year and it's amazing. It feels super solid like a Macbook but is easy to open and change out parts. Nothing has broken but adding some ram was probably the most pleasant experience I have had working on a laptop. Plus, the main PCB can run without the rest of the laptop so perhaps a great home automation server or TV computer if we upgrade.

My next machine is definitely going to be one of these. Way cheaper than Apple if you want more than 8G of RAM and a decent amount of disk space.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not by as much as I thought it would be honestly. About 20%.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is great! When the fuck can i buy one?

Been two years now since i first heard about Framework from the first LTT video on it (just checked at that video actualy came out in july 2021), and i was allready looking at replacing my laptop, so i thought Framework would be great to get.

Now two years have passed, and they still aren't available in my region. Couldn't realy delay the replacement any more, so now i have ended up getting a different laptop, meaning even i Framework became available here soon, i won't buy a new laptop for 5-6 years at least.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Northern Europe.

Last i checked (a couple of months back), they were finaly working on keyboard layouts for the area, but still no info on when te laptops would be available around here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Have you considered a parcel forwarding service?

Sure you may need to shovel an extra 50, but might be worth it. They're on sale in Germany and France, for example.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

No way to join this nice ship without a trackpoint... 😒

load more comments
view more: ‹ prev next ›