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Have you heard about the president who received money from China and other foreign countries? No, not the current president. The former one.

House Republicans recently launched an impeachment inquiry into President Joe Biden, premised on the claim that he is hiding, in the words of Speaker Mike Johnson, “millions of dollars in payments from America’s foreign adversaries.” As yet, they have produced no evidence to back up the idea that Biden profited. (The payments they have flagged involve the business interests of his son Hunter Biden, who is facing two separate federal indictments at the moment, and his brother James.)

Meanwhile, House Democrats on Thursday released a report detailing how former President Donald Trump received, and then tried to hide, millions in payments from America’s foreign adversaries. Unlike in the impeachment inquiry, which is premised on a suspicion that Republicans hope will turn up evidence, the receipts are here.

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The saga of the foreign payments is a good case study in how Trump has taught Americans to tolerate brazen corruption—so long as it’s his. To do this, Trump relies on two tactics. First, he does much of it out in the open, recognizing that voters tend to assume that only hidden deeds are nefarious. Second, he finds ways to slow-walk the release of the most damaging information, so that by the time the full picture is clear, the public has become almost inoculated—as though it had been out in the open all along.

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[–] santa 32 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Going out on a limb here… we don’t tolerate it. There isn’t much stopping them though, esp with a stacked SCOTUS and GQP.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Naaah we tolerate it. Remember when Reagan sold arms to the country that held American hostages during his predecessor's term. You know the country he illegally colluded with to beat the incumbent president. Selling them weapons to circumvent a US embargo. To fund international terrorism like the contras in South America. And then when he and his VP were caught red handed. They passed it off to a patsy. Ollie North! The criminal president at his term limit retiring comfortably as Republican Messiah. The criminal VP going on to be president. Who then pardoned the former president and Ollie North of their crimes. And America collectively yawned. So much so that cartoons do a better job covering it than most history books people are exposed to.

[–] santa 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sorry. I’m still not tolerating corrupt governing. If you do, that’s okay.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Nowhere did I ever say I tolerated it. I'm just asking who this We is you think you're talking about. Because America clearly tolerates it.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

like weeds in your garden, corruption breeds more corruption.. Trump spread weeds everywhere he went..

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Donny Nettleseed

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (2 children)

America was already tolerating a ton of corruption, though, just much less brazen.

Basically, bribing a politicians is completely legal as long as you don't tell the world what you're bribing them to do.

Blackmailing them with threats of supporting their opponents if they don't say or do what you want is completely fine too, apparently.

The trick is to not be too blatant about it, brag about it, deny it and then brag about it some more like the Mango Mussolini does.

[–] thecrotch 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. Every single time there's an op-ed accusing Trump of inventing something, inevitably it's just something he exploited and dialed up to 11. The only people more confident of Trump's abilities than his supporters are his detractors.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yeah. He's an especially malignant tumor, not the underlying cancer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

“It’S not bribEry It’S LObbyiNG!!“

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You mean he taught the "liberal media" and the cons this. Normal people hate this brazen corruption and want to see it severely punished.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Liberal media... Like the website this article is hosted on? Or CNN covering it regularly? Reuters?

How would you define liberal media?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's in quotation marks, it's most likely tongue in cheek.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I was about to say Whoosh... but I don't get the first sentence then. Liberal media as in Fox News since even that's liberal to MAGA now? Cons being conservatives yeah?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I think so lol

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

imagine getting it this backwards. The reason they tolerate trump's corruption is because most of congress is nearly as bad and any sort of digging would create a weapon that could be used against them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is not true. I'm not denying widespread corruption and in Congress (much of it even legal) , but Trump's corruption was more widespread and more brazenly public than any US politician in living memory.

Every single he went golfing at a golf course he owns and forced the secret service to rent out dozens of rooms at the attached hotel he owns, it was an act of corruption. He did it so many times that people just forget it. It slipped into the background of his other schemes. But it was nonetheless corruption every single time. He openly used the office to enrich himself. Not with deals, not by subtly having favourable classes added to legislation. He did it directly and openly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

there have been numerous rulings by SCOTUS going back before the 80s each making it harder to prosecute politicians for corruption, with citizens united being one of the largest barriers between corporations and state removed.

Realistically trump isn't some anomoly - He's just a donor class person entering in the building from the back door the politicians leave from. The fact that door exists between politicians and donors is the problem here. Trump just did it much more blatantly but its still the same problem that Manchin or whoever have where they favor their own companies with legislative carvouts or cushy appointments.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

When there’s so much trash keeps piling up in your room with no idea which way is up or down anymore, your brain just kinda begins to accept it for what it is and goes with the flow.