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Please recommend some communities to which it would be appropriate for me to crosspost this shot. Thanks!

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.crimedad.work/post/45820

cross-posted from: https://pixelfed.crimedad.work/p/crimedad/646440264334955524

A derelict wind farm.

I took this photo back in 2011 from somewhere in the southern part of the Big Island of Hawaii.

#windpower #renewables #distopian #windturbines #clouds #horizon #landscape #bleak #hawaii #cloudyday #cloudy

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Why was it abandoned? Looks very apocalyptic

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Yes this was probably it. Thank you!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't know, but I suspect financial reasons. Another important question is why wasn't it cleaned up?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Environmental impact statements and plans for projects like these rarely include details for end of life stages. In my environmental program, we reviewed and submitted comments on some. I selected a solar farm that was scheduled to last 20 years and then be removed. The only details they provided for end of life was that the panels would be disposed of locally. This is a common trend in any industry, not just green tech. However, I argue that we are at a point where we need to transform our entire energy infrastructure system in a short time. We have an opportunity to do it right and not end up with solar panels in landfills or derelict wind farms as we have burning coal mines and wells leaking gas.

For US based readers, you can look up projects on the EPA's site and make comments yourself. You don't need to be an expert to encourage sustainable practices.

https://cdxapps.epa.gov/cdx-enepa-II/public/action/eis/search

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A stoner friend of mine thats known for crackpot ideas was like "I should start a busniness that recycles solar panels that are starting to wear out and resell them in rural areas where people can just install a bunch of them to make up for the lower output"

And I had that moment where I realised "Thats not a bad idea... from anyone... but especially from hkm"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This already exists. When utility scale solar farms change panels their used ones are resold.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Oh I'm not surprised that its done, just that he had the idea.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I don't disagree with your conclusion but as long as there is profit to be made, and we live under the profit-is-god system, no one that matters is going to give a shit and nothing is going to change.

They will continue to greenwash, move goalposts, and flat out lie as they keep funnelling all our money to the hands of a few fat pigs while the world burns and some poor sod glues themselves to a road somewhere thinking that's going to stop anyone..

There is no reforming capitalism, there is no fix within the system, it is working as intended, and will continue to do so until we abolish it.