this post was submitted on 28 Dec 2023
96 points (95.3% liked)

World News

40038 readers
2130 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News [email protected]

Politics [email protected]

World Politics [email protected]


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Katsuji Nakazawa is a Tokyo-based senior staff and editorial writer at Nikkei. He spent seven years in China as a correspondent and later as China bureau chief. He was the 2014 recipient of the Vaughn-Ueda International Journalist prize.

During a meeting in Moscow back in March, Russian President Vladimir Putin told his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping that Russia "will fight for [at least] five years" in Ukraine, sources have revealed.

This was apparently Putin's way of summarizing a situation that at the time was not favorable to Russia and assuring Xi that Russia would emerge victorious in the end.The likely implication was that a protracted war would favor China's well-armed partner.

Taken another way, the remark was also a warning to Xi not to change his pro-Russia stance.

The trip was Xi's first to Russia after Moscow launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022. It was also the first time Xi visited a leading nation after China lifted its strict zero-COIVD policy.

Whether Xi was convinced, Putin's remark at the summit holds the key to understanding a series of mysterious developments in Russia-China relations, from a Chinese peace mission to Europe in May to China sacking its foreign minister months later.

top 6 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] pelespirit 58 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Am I understanding the article correctly (especially italics) when I say the following?:

  • Putin & Xi agree to be bff
  • Putin between Olympics and Paraolympics invades Ukraine without telling him. Xi knew he was up to something, but didn't know the timing or severity.
  • Putin fails at getting it over with quickly like he had planned. He bragged that it would take 3 days.
  • Ukraine gets international support and good will while taking back some areas.
  • Putin's hired assassin's leader betrayed him and tried a coup.
  • Putin says he'll last through 5 years of fighting though.
  • Putin keeps trying to get Ukraine to do a cease fire as long as he keeps Crimea. Ukraine doesn't believe that he'll cease fire or stop at Crimea
  • China doesn't believe he'll last that long so they're trying to make peace with all sides.
  • China now thinks the Ukraine thing is interfering with him invading Taiwan.
  • Everyone doesn't know how to react with their weapons because it's taking so long.
[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the most competent summary of Siberian geopolitics, ANY geopolitics,I have ever seen in my entire life.

[–] pelespirit 12 points 1 year ago

Thanks man. In all fairness, it's all about the wants and needs and the article explained what they were. Usually, they don't.

[–] gravitas_deficiency 6 points 1 year ago

Actually… pretty much, yeah.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


During a meeting in Moscow back in March, Russian President Vladimir Putin told his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping that Russia "will fight for [at least] five years" in Ukraine, sources have revealed.

Whether Xi was convinced, Putin's remark at the summit holds the key to understanding a series of mysterious developments in Russia-China relations, from a Chinese peace mission to Europe in May to China sacking its foreign minister months later.

But given Putin's words to Xi in March, revealed by multiple sources familiar with diplomatic maneuvering between China and Russia, the Russian leader's reported intentions for a cease-fire should not be taken at face value.

If the war between Russia and Ukraine grows more prolonged, it would significantly impact plans and ambitions Xi has for his unprecedented third term as China's president and Chinese Communist Party general secretary.

To make matters worse, less than a month later, in June, Wagner, the Russian private military organization led by Yevgeny Prigozhin, who held the key to fighting in Ukraine, launched a short-lived rebellion, giving Putin a close call.

It is important to keep in mind that conversations between the Chinese and Russian leaders in 2023, especially Putin's March remark about prolonging the Ukraine war, can have ramifications on the security of Japan and the entire Indo-Pacific region.


The original article contains 1,208 words, the summary contains 215 words. Saved 82%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

[–] HootinNHollerin 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"It’s not gay if it’s pronounced 'she'" - putin, probably