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I can't seem to find that one comment explaining the issue with them...

But for the sake of promoting conversation on Lemmy, what's the issue with Epic, and why should I go for Steam or GoG?

Note: Piracy is not an answer. I understand why, and do agree to a certain extent... But sometimes, the happiness gained by playing something from a legitimate source is far greater 🥹... coming from someone who could never ever afford to purchase games, nor could my parents... Hence I've always played bootleg, or pirated games.

TL;DR

What's wrong?

  • Their launcher has a terrible UI AND UX.
  • They make exclusive deals with studios to prevent other platforms from getting games. (Someone mentioned that Steam did the same thing in their infancy. Also, I have another question; why is it ok for Sony and Microsoft to make exclusive games for their consoles but not ok for these PC platforms to do so?)
  • They have been invested in by a Chinese company, Tencent. (Someone mentioned that it isn't that big of a deal, but idk.)
  • They are actively anti-linux for some reason.
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Nothing is wrong with it. It is just another games store.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Epic Games is useful for the free games they giveaway every week, some weeks better than others. And I know the topic of ownership of these "free games" is another conversation, but I'll take advantage of it while it's there and also while giving them little to no money.

[–] PsychedSy 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I refuse to patronize Epic until they continue working on UT4. I've been playing their games for 25 years and they make fortnite then decide to just drop all of their long term fans.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

UT = Unreal Tournament, yes?

My dad got me that game on his old laptop when I was a kid. It barely ran, but boy was it exciting ❤️.

The Plasma gun was my favourite 🫡. Especially in that space level... The one where you could jump outside the windows.

I have a bone to pick with Epic regarding Unreal Engine as well. Terrible optimisation. Any game I play, if made using UE, is terrible.

I've played the first two of the Tomb Raider trilogy on medium on my 4GB GTX 1650, i7 9th Gen, 16GB RAM laptop. This device has pushed me through my engineering and still continues to run most of my work. It also runs Forza Horizon 4 and Red Dead Redemption 2 good enough.

Yet I install Deliver Us Mars, a game with a much smaller scale, and my beautiful beast starts to stutter. 🫠🫠🫠

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Epic’s customer service sucks. Consider my last experience from a prior xmas sale:

  • had multiple games in the cart with discounts applied, checked out with paypal, but for whatever reason the communication broke and didn’t go through
  • my cart then got stuck in a limbo where I couldn’t check out with any method to receive the discounts, everything was full price again
  • opened a customer support ticket to get the problem resolved, then went through 3 days of back and forth, explaining the situation over and over because
    • each of your replies are handled by whoever the next agent is
    • who apparently don’t read any history of the ticket, so they provide feedback or advice that already didn’t work
    • and it can take a full 24 hours or more to get a reply that ignores all previous replies
  • by the time the error was resolved by a competent person, the sale was over by only a few hours
  • despite the fact that I only missed the sale window because their reps were incompetent, they refused to make any exceptions to apply the sale prices I had been trying to checkout for 3 days

So, fuck them. I only claim free games from them now.

And I concur with problems other people have mentioned.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

each of your replies are handled by whoever the next agent is

The names of their support agents is truly odd. I’ve seen people post complaints about their support that is little more than this:

Hi, this is Charlie Uniform November Tango here to help.
After receiving all the information that you sent us that we requested, we sadly can’t help because reasons.
Thanks for being an epic gamer.

Hilariously bad.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As for minor issues, EGS does not have feature parity with Steam or GOG. They don't have user reviews, for example. This makes it a worse user experience.

More importantly, Epic has a habit of anti-competitive or anti-consumer behavior. When EGS first launched, they were keen on doing console-style timed exclusives, even for games that were already purchasable on platforms like Steam.

Lastly, Epic has a history of neglecting or shutting down games. A few of their older games were taken offline permanently when Fortnite started gaining traction. They then purchased a few studios, namely Psyonix (makers of Rocket League), Mediatonic (Fall Guys), and Harmonix (Rock Band/Guitar Hero series). These studios seem to be a shell of what they used to be. Psyonix's first major project under Epic was Rocket Racing in Fortnite, and this project seemed to be prioritized over Rocket League and even caused the removal of core features of Rocket League. Harmonix worked on Fortnite Festival, but that came at the cost of Fuser, which shut down and was delisted about a year after launch. As for Mediatonic, I don't think they worked on anything else yet, but a large portion of the studio was recently laid off. Needless to say, fans of the affected studios aren't happy with Epic as they're being treated as 2nd-class citizens compared to Fortnite players.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The first major issue for me was that the launcher was a crypto miner and they didn't tell anyone.

Since then, I have 0 trust in them and refuse to install the launcher. I don't care for the "free games"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is this true? AFAIK the reason sometimes the launcher took a lot of resources to run is because Epic actually uses UE to make EGS.

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