"Or else, we will be very, very angry with you, and we will write you a letter telling you how angry we are."
this post was submitted on 14 Dec 2023
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What else do you expect the UN to do? It’s not the world police or world government. It’s just a debate forum where all the nations’ diplomats can safely talk to each other. And it does some humanitarian work. The UN’s authority only extends as far as the nations allow it to go. And the world powers sure as hell won’t give it military authority over themselves.
The UN didn’t find WMDs and reported it. It’s up to the nations what they do with that information. The rest of the developed world should have sanctioned the US. Yet many followed the US into the war like a lapdog.
Notably, Canada declined to join the invasion of Iraq, and faced a lot of criticism from the U.S. for doing so. PM Jean Cretien of the Liberal party was in charge at the time.
Mexico, France, and Germany along with others didn't join the war either. The outage and BS about France that came out after was sad considering their long history of freedom together and the Statue of Liberty being a gift from France.
Still don't think Freedom Fries stuck, as it's not freedom to just go and kill people because it filled a political need.
The outage and BS about France that came out after was sad considering their long history
This shows that a century of friendship can be tossed aside if a politician can whip some uneducated oafs into a frenzy. It was an interesting early demo of weaponizing the stupid as a mob.
I wasn't a fan of a lot of the things Chretien did, but this was definitely the right call.
Aww, you're breaking my balls Hans. You're breaking my balls!"
Aww, Hans Brix!!
You're breaking my balls Hans!
I once read in an interview that putin said he'd had found wmds there if he was in charge :D
I'm sure he would. The question is if they would have been there before he started looking.
That war served to destroy my generation but we got Obama in and changed the country. Fuck the conservatives to hell (too bad it doesn’t exist).
my favorite part of all of this is that now the official line from everyone who supported the war is that they were fooled by bad intelligence. I was there for the runup to this unjustified war. Millions of us took to the streets to say that the reasons for war (iraq had WMDs, iraq was involved in 9/11) were clearly and obviously horseshit. We all knew there were no WMDs. Geroge W Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Colin Powell expect you to believe that they got fooled but that I as a 19 year old busboy from Pittsburgh had better intelligence than they did. And everyone just let them off the hook.
Absolutely fucking evil people. Every last one of them. Millions and millions of deaths because they lied.
I heard recently about the Spanish "miracle". Apparently when the dictator Franco died, all of a sudden everyone came out saying they were against him and his policies and they couldn't find anyone that fought for his side during the civil war. They were all fighting against him privately and never supported him.
I wonder once Trump passes away if we will see a similar US "miracle" where no one actually supported him. They were against him and secretly fighting against him for the rest of the GOP. They will claim they never owned the Trump hats, flags and signs, nor the Brandon stuff, but they were true American Patriots all along...
I'm honestly surprised that he hadn't lost more followers after failing to protect those he invoked to come to the capital to overturn the vote. He left these true bloods out in the cold and to fend for themselves. I would be pretty cross to have risked so much for my Pumpkin Overlord and then be abandoned when I needed him the most to bail me out of the crap he helped lead me into.
I blame Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfield for at least a portion of my lack of direction and current status.
I had intended on joining the military with the hopes of getting some technical training and discipline that I could use to get a good job, instead I had to watch these greedy fucking assholes manipulate the country into a completely unnecessary war that only served to destabilize the middle east and funnel taxpayer money into the hands of Cheney and Rumsfield... By the time I was out of highschool in 2004 I said fuuuuuck that noise. I'm not going to war to make those fuckers even more wealthy for some quite obvious bullshit...
Slightly related but the cartoon The Boondocks has an awesome episode that's a metaphor of sorts for the Iraq war. I don't know the name, but i think it's the one where they are looking for the "Xbox killer" and the characters literally represent Rumsfield (the evidence of absence isn't the absence of evidence lol) and Bush Jr. They even go hold up a 7-11 with a cashier that looks like Saddam and they press him about a weapon that he isn't holding, looking at a cop gaslighting him too about the gun that the cashier doesn't have lol
He's a hero in my house.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWD6pGQCwM8
You are ruled by evil ghouls. If it weren't for the coup, I would have ranked Donnie a better president than Bush II.
Low bar, though.
Yet he managed to crawl under it.