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[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No, he shouldn't. He's 81 right now, he'll be 82 just after the election. If he wins in 2024, he'll be 86 when he leaves office.

Assuming he lives that long. Life expectancy for an American male is 77.28 years. The likelyhood of him finishing his second term is low.

And, he's only 4 years older than Trump. Trump will be 78 to Biden's 82. Both past their "Use By" date.

[–] ryathal 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The life expectancy at 80 is 87 for men in the US. He'd likely live through his next term if he was elected. You aren't wrong about both of them being too old though.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not counting the stress of the office, but also not counting the world class healthcare.

[–] rebelsimile 3 points 11 months ago

It’s not like Biden’s raising his voice all the time though

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Funny how nobody wants either of them, and those same folx aren’t offering any other options. I think these sorts of posts come out of Russian troll farms. Ignore them.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I don't want him to run, I'll take Gavin Newsom or AOC. Is that better?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

No one has reminded me more of Bill Clinton than Gavin Newsom.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Newsom’s role in providing marriage licenses for same sex couples in defiance of his political advisors, conventional wisdom, and the completely predictable government reaction demonstrates for me a person willing to make challenging decisions on the basis of what is right.

No politician will ever line up 100% with what we want, and politics is a messy business. But I think that Newsom took positions that a more political politician like Clinton (defense of marriage act, don’t ask don’t tell) wouldn’t touch.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I like Gavin Newsom. I’m not here to throw shade.

Providing the licenses was easy. He was the mayor of San Fran and had the vision enough to know it was a long game winner. That should not take away from what he did. He did it when he did it and he deserves credit.

But this dude was also married to Kim Guilfoyle. He’s a climber and always has been. That’s not really a knock per se, but boy his political cutout sure looks like what Bill Clinton looked like way back when.

He’s a sharp dude. He’s also a dirty bastard that will be unpredictable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

You love him when he’s your snake, but there’s always a chance he’ll bite you.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They do seem better to me. But they're not running. My state's Democratic party isn't having a primary for president. So I might vote in the Republican primary instead.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The DNC as an organization is refusing to consider anyone else.

Which is hilarious. They simply can’t abide their own charter. Ooops.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

The state Democratic parties are all free to include presidential candidates on their primary ballots. The DNC is just using funding as a cudgel about it.

[–] ryathal 4 points 11 months ago

Demanding alternatives is a way to stop discussion. It's not the job of random people to be political analysts.

[–] rebelsimile 3 points 11 months ago

Are they still running troll farms? Do they do it from their phones on the front or something?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

My option is to eliminate the federal government entirely and hold regional constitutional conventions, because if we don’t change the system we’ll be right here in another election cycle.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

I'm not Russian, just posting articles that spark discussion.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

where do you get all your polonium from?

not asking for any nefarious reason

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

North Korea.

[–] Zeppo 1 points 11 months ago

Russia has extensive nuclear technology. They can make their own out of bismuth.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

If it were literally any other challenger then this would be a no-brainer, but it's not like Trump is functionally any younger. Therefore age is irrelevant, we need to look at their policies and.... yeah probably not either.

Really is a race to the bottom, huh?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

It's been a race to the bottom since Bill Clinton and 3rd way Democrats

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


It was a forehead-slapping moment for a president whose drooping approval ratings have forced him to turn his re-election campaign into a referendum on his predecessor, and a reminder that the political forecast for the next 11 months suggests America will be inundated with two candidates most of the country doesn’t want.

After delivering a speech urging Congress to pass a multibillion-dollar aid package for Ukraine, Mr. Biden walked away and reporters shouted questions at him.

But his perhaps-too-candid moments, combined with many voters’ dissatisfaction about his performance, have worked to undercut his rationale for running — that he is the indispensable Democrat best positioned to keep Mr. Trump out of the White House, protect democracy and retain the “soul of America.”

He has confused Mr. Biden with Mr. Obama, suggested America is on the verge of entering World War II, praised Hezbollah, the Iranian-backed militant group, and told supporters not to worry about voting.

He said Mr. Biden’s gaffes gave him an authenticity in the minds of voters that other veteran Washington politicians lacked, even if they caused a few headaches for Mr. Obama and his aides.

“Joe Biden has been a guy who has spoken his mind for 50 years in politics,” said Mr. Axelrod, who has repeatedly suggested that the president’s age will be a top concern for voters in 2024.


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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

It's not an awkward conversation, no he shouldn't.