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Instead of just electrifying vehicles, cities should be investing in alternative methods of transportation. This article is by the Scientific Foresight Unit of the European Parliamentary Research Service (EPRS), a EU's own think tank.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Just take lanes away from cars

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

It’s a good move but note that car drivers are extremely clingy to their convenience. They protest violently and burn tires under the threat of pedestrianizing a road. The hostility they bring to the slightest possibility of a perceived drop in their convenience is unmatched. The car lobby is BIG and the politicians themselves are in that car-driving demographic.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I understand the sentiment, but that could cause more issues than it solves. Cars then would be forced to compete for space with bicycle again,only this time on all bicycle roads. Or houses could not have car access at all, if you'd narrow the streets.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Cars then would be forced to compete for space with bicycle again,only this time on all bicycle roads.

Why? The other person said: "Take lanes away from cars". There wouldn't be any cars on that lane.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Huh, somehow misread that as "take all lanes away"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There are some model projects of super blocks which are already very promising. They change the nature of car use inside a neighborhood by making pass-through traffic impossible and limiting parking space to only residents as well as making roads very narrow all the while being mixed use. It makes driving faster than 10km/h pretty hard, all the while still keeping it possible for people who really need it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

It’s called a “woonerf”, we’ve had them since the seventies.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Yaeh ok, but what are the issues you were announcing before talking about the benefits?