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I'm an American but studied abroad in Denmark for around 6 months. When I was there, I found out that the Nordic countries have virtually eradicated down syndrome by testing pregnant people for it. 99% choose to abort. How do you guys feel about this?

Personally this is quite disturbing to me. I've known people with down syndrome who live happy, quality lives. Even if it is up to the mother whether or not to abort, when it happens 99% of the time, is it not cultural eugenics? It seems the culture is almost afraid of taking care of a child with down syndrome. Especially in one of the wealthiest countries in the world, where the resources to take care of them are more widely available. If you could test for other things like autism, or even something like extreme depression, would yall do the same thing?

EDIT: I am strongly pro choice and I have talked to many American people on both sides of the political spectrum about this and they unanimously agree with me. On an individual level, I support everyones right to make their own decisions, but when it gets to the population level it becomes more of a cultural issue. There seems to be a cultural agreement that children with down syndrome are too difficult to care for. Does that make it ok to eradicate them? I honestly don't know


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The original was posted on /r/denmark by /u/queen_bs at 2024-03-13 15:12:18+00:00.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

queen_bs (OP) at 2024-03-13 16:08:03+00:00 ID: kup0g8l


please explain to me how this issue does not fit the definition of eugenics

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

PewPewhmm at 2024-03-13 16:15:27+00:00 ID: kup1s0p


Its self explanatory. You feel to much to give the statement, the rationale it needs to be handled with, if you ask me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (3 children)

queen_bs (OP) at 2024-03-13 16:36:17+00:00 ID: kup5lew


directly from google: "Eugenics is a set of beliefs and practices that aim to improve the genetic quality of a human population."

How is comparing aborting fetuses with certain genetics to vacuuming not eugenics?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

crazymissdaisy87 at 2024-03-13 16:49:28+00:00 ID: kup81jr


Personal choice is not eugenics. No one is doing this to improve genetic quality. Downs is not inherited. No one is being forced

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

PewPewhmm at 2024-03-13 16:52:28+00:00 ID: kup8lri


Maybe he is just describing the suction function he might think it requires to abort a fetus

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

NoneYearClub at 2024-03-13 17:26:04+00:00 ID: kupeufb


Præcis, jeg kunne også have skrevet; "Her lugter af løg" (Den Eneste ene reference).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

PewPewhmm at 2024-03-13 17:50:36+00:00 ID: kupjeab


Du kunne også have skrevet noget relevant. Eller ikke have skrevet noget overhovedet. Mange muligheder

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

NoneYearClub at 2024-03-13 17:54:01+00:00 ID: kupk1bb


Det kunne jeg, men nu valgte jeg i stedet at poste *støvsugerlyde

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Vertebrae_Viking at 2024-03-13 21:20:37+00:00 ID: kuqlvsm


It is only eugenics if it’s to eradicate a certain unwanted trait, and only then.

Here, abortion of fosters with Down’s syndrome isn’t about eradicating traits, it’s about the parents not wanting to take on the level of responsibility required by these kids. You empirically cannot disprove the fact, that taking on such a responsibility is going to bring down your quality of life. I know adults who are parents of kids with Down’s syndrome and parents of kids with other equally significant syndromes and illnesses. Most of them have never had a single day off since the day their child was born. They will smile in public or in front of their child, and they will call them their gift. Maybe those feelings and expressions are true, but I’ve also seen the exhaustion and the desperation pushing them to panic attacks and uncontrollable crying. Once you’re in, there is not a way out, and you better be sure that you can handle it, if you can’t, then the person you love the most will also make you suffer the most, and there’ll be no-one to blame.

Abortion isn’t a question, it’s an option, and you can never blame someone for taking it.

Pack your virtue-signalling rhetoric in a suitcase, and shove it anywhere you’d like that isn’t here.