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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (36 children)

Relying on cultural hot topics rather than real character building killed this show. The spore drive was also kinda "out there" though interesting. I wish the best for the cast.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (17 children)

The show has one non-binary character and a gay couple and suddenly they're relying on "cultural hot topics".

Please.

Disco had a lot of flaws, and most of them were the same flaws we saw in Picard: the writers just couldn't write full season plot arcs that were satisfying and believable. This is made worse because each season had to raise the stakes, to the point where it just got kinda exhausting. Meanwhile the show just took itself way too seriously, without really earning my emotional investment.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (8 children)

I agree with the original post. It's what also killed it for me. Felt like the writers went for the lowest hanging fruit.

I mean it's Star Trek, skin color, gender, sexual orientation, nobody cares about that. Be whoever you want to be, you will be accepted. To me that's what Star Trek has always been about, you will always be included.

Don’t even remember when I stopped watching it, I tried a few episodes each season and I just gave up. Burnham has such a great smile but in all episodes she has a nervous breakdown and is always sad. At least that's how I remember the series in my head. Everybody's depressed. Don't remember anything else.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I mean it’s Star Trek, skin color, gender, sexual orientation, nobody cares about that.

You're implying that Discovery showed characters giving a shit about someone's skin color, gender or sexual orientation?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The show wrIters OBVIOUSLY cared. So much so it shined right through the writing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes absolutely! Well said. Progressive themes shined through in the writing, but on-screen the characters never made a big deal out of it. That's been very Star Trek since the days of TOS. An episode like "Let that be your Last Battlefield" would have a shoved-down-your-throat antiracist message, but it was a metaphor and not directly about Uhura, who's race was never discussed.

Well, except that one time by space Abraham Lincoln.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Everything Lincoln says to Uhura is the epitome of cringe. It was certainly a different time, but oh my gosh...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

@MotoAsh @Lwaxana I think DS9 writers cared al lot more than Discos ones. Like, Sisko was misgendering Dax almost every time he addressed her (it wasn't serious as it was made obvious it was fine between them, but it was present in almost every episode). And Kor corrects himself quickly when Dax says she is Jadzia now, while the other klingons need more time to accept her. Meanwhile in Disco I only remember one instance of "I'd rather be addressed as this" "sure!".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yea, that's sorta' what I mean. They cared about writing complex professional characters in ds9 and such, not drama queens doing contemporary art. Regardless of the high production value, it has the opposite soul of Star Trek for focusing on issues over humanized characters.

Ugh, it's so hard to describe good writing when I'm not a good writer. lol

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