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[–] [email protected] 90 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Just did a rough estimate and I have approximately 200 tabs currently open in Firefox on my work laptop.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Of those which were opened more than 1 hour ago, how many have you used in the last hour, would you suppose?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In the last hour? I just started work an hour ago, so like 4.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So the other 196 are sort of, things you're not working on, but haven't really done with, and might need again?

I think most people use some combination of notes, bookmarks, history, and search to manage this.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Obviously.

I'm not being critical. More power to you.

I know there's lots of people that use lots of tabs and I'm just trying to understand how it works.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Honestly I might dispute your assertion that "most people" are doing anything different. IME, people are generally pretty disorganized.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

A bold assertion good sir, and one we can test:

https://telemetry.mozilla.org/new-pipeline/dist.html#!cumulative=0&end_date=2023-12-17&include_spill=0&keys=__none__!__none__!__none__&max_channel_version=nightly%252F122&measure=SCALARS_BROWSER.ENGAGEMENT.MAX_CONCURRENT_TAB_COUNT&min_channel_version=null&processType=*&product=Firefox&sanitize=1&sort_by_value=0&sort_keys=submissions&start_date=2023-11-20&table=0&trim=1&use_submission_date=0

I'm on mobile but if that data is showing what I think it is, the median "Max tabs per session" is 4? Less than I expected? That's firefox nightly too, which I would expect to skew more towards excessive tabs than the main releases.

Also... someone has more than 7,000 tabs open?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Why? Bookmarks exist. Are you trying to make sure all your ram stays full or what?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

Isn't this an old thing by now? Pretty sure tabs that are not used for X amount of time are put to "sleep".

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Bookmarks exist

Bookmarks also need a huge redesign, and not only with FF.

That is why services like Pocket and reading lists exist... Heck, I have been using Evernote as a bookmark replacement for many years (and now I need to find a replacement for it, Sadly).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I think you're right, but open tabs are sort of similar, they just make using your computer slower and tabs harder to find at a certain point. I say this and I have 32 GB of RAM. I find it noticeably slower if I have like 30 tabs open.

And yeah 5 characters isn't enough for me to know what that open tab is. I have watched people use tabs like that, and no one seems to actually deal with it well. It always seems to be a struggle that they just cope with. Clicking 17 times to find a tab isn't making anyone's life easier.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And yeah 5 characters isn't enough for me to know what that open tab is. I have watched people use tabs like that, and no one seems to actually deal with it well. It always seems to be a struggle that they just cope with. Clicking 17 times to find a tab isn't making anyone's life easier.

That is only because stock FF tab management today is trash.

I don't like Chrome's too much better, but for me Safari having an integrated Simple Tab Groups feature was a must have feature.

Now with these new changes can actually help to manage this, and it seems that it won't affect FF usage at all, so one could keep using TST or Sidebery if they wanted to, for a more serious tab management.

Also, I only have 16 GBs of RAM, but I have yet to feel my MacBook Pro any slower because of FF, especially when FF is able to sleep tabs or if you restart it manually.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

I am confused by most of what you're saying.. what the acronyms are, how safari come into play (talk about an absolute trash browser)...

You do you, but I'll probably never think opening a bunch of tabs is helpful. Making it easier to do so is enabling bad behavior. I'll probably use it, and at times stress myself out because even with a nicer UI I'll be struggling to find something with 42 tabs open.

It's like keeping a messy and cluttered desk. Some people are going to do that and say they can find everything, but 9 times out of 10 if you watch them work you can tell it makes life a little more difficult, they're just coping with it because they'd rather not straighten up as often as others.