This post is the most accurate portrayal of the situation I think I've seen. I'd greatly question someone's moral compass if they liked Biden or approved of his presidency. Whenever this gets discussed, a bunch of status quo warriors pop out of wells to say "Trump is worse." Like, no shit.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Whenever this gets discussed, a bunch of status quo warriors pop out of wells to say "Trump is worse." Like, no shit.

Yes, but it still needs to be said every time because it would be detremental to leave even the tiniest chance for this (valid) critique of Biden to help Trump in the presidential election. That is why I think it's inportant to point out the obvious (Trump is way worse) because it is obvious to most but might not be to some and it would be a massive Issue if those people could take this discourse as reason not to vote for Biden in november.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It seems to me in bad taste when someone's trying to discuss things like the Palestinian genocide or the immigrant concentration camps to then try to make it about a campaign. It effectively derails meaningful discussion about people actually suffering and dying via Biden's bad actions.

Edit: But I do understand your pov. I just disagree with it. The best thing we can do to earn the votes of leftist and progressive voters is to at least make us feel heard. Lecturing us about Trump every time seems like a great way to alienate people.

[–] Deceptichum 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The way they talk, Biden is the greatest thing ever.

I dont care that they have to vote for him to avoid Trump, that sucks but i get it.

But I cannot tolerate the maga cult levels of delusion they use to support him. Just admit hes shit and that all he offers is not being Trump, at least that shows a sign that maybe you would at least want to fix the system after the election.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Yeah, it's really sus behavior. The people who are especially baffling are those who post long laundry lists of Biden's supposed accomplishments, as this in any way excuses things like committing genocide or imprisoning refugees in concentration camps.

I'm sure John Wayne Gacy was a fine party clown, but this typically isn't considered to excuse his other endeavors.

So yeah, I've been totally disillusioned of the idea that Democrats aren't cultlike. Both parties over here treating politics like a team sport, and meanwhile people are dying for no good reason at all.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

thank you! fully agree. i’m slowly getting a handle on this rhetoric posting thing 🙃

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

You're doing great!

If you ever want to post something without dealing with all the bad takes and genocide deniers, come post on [email protected]

I created it more or less to keep myself out of pointless arguments lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Look he has fucked up the least out of all the modern presidents, so of course people like Biden, this holier-than-thou attitude is what gives online leftists a bad name

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Yeah because not committing genocide and building concentration camps is too high a bar for a person to clear /s