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Fake internet points are finally worth something!
Now redditors can earn real money for their contributions to the Reddit community, based on the karma and gold they've been given.
How it works:

  • Redditors give gold to posts, comments, or other contributions they think are really worth something.
  • Eligible contributors that earn enough karma and gold can cash out their earnings for real money.
  • Contributors apply to the program to see if they're eligible.
  • Top contributors make top dollar. The more karma and gold contributors earn, the more money they can receive.

Not just anyone can be a contributor. To join and stay in the program, contributors need to meet a few requirements:\

  • Be over 18 and live in the U.S.
  • Only Safe for Work contributions qualify
  • Earn xx gold and karma each month
  • Provide verification information. You must have at least 10 gold and 100 karma to begin verification.
  • NSFW accounts aren't eligible for the Contributors Program

Here's my take on this. Since this is from the latest version of Reddit's ~~broken browser for a single site~~ "official app", it's likely a recent development, triggered by recent changes in the platform. Reddit Inc. is likely worried about contributors leaving due to the app-pocalypse, and is trying to counter it by throwing them some spare cash.

And I'm going to be honest: holy fuck this sounds like a Bad Ideaยฎ. For three reasons.

The first one is demographics; since 47% of the users are Americans, and 21% of them are 10-19yo, it's safe to say that ~60% of the users are ineligible, and thus will only contribute for free.

Will they? People often don't mind contributing for free, as long as the others are in the same page. The picture changes once you get at least someone making money out of it - odds are that those 60% will disengage further.

The second reason is that Reddit Inc. is disregarding the fluff principle. If the money threshold is the number of upvotes and awards that someone gets per period of time, why would the person bother with high quality content? Or even quality content at all - it's easy to make up for lack of quality with quantity. For example, setting up a simple bot to scrape the top posts and repost them. (Is Reddit expecting the mods to delete those reposts? OH WAIT)

The third and final reason is who you expect to give awards to those people, before they feel pissed and discouraged and leave the program, breaking even further their trust in the platform. Who would even buy Reddit gold on first place? The Reddit community has been outright mocking Reddit gold for years, and the suckers actually buying it were the ones who were the most engaged and emotionally attached to the platform, to the point that they're willing to "help" it. (As if corporations need help, but whatever.) It would be a shame if Reddit happened to piss off exactly that demographic... like it did.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 251 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is just going to encourage even more spammy, low quality, easily consumable clickbait content.
Good luck, Steve.

[โ€“] MontyVirus 99 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same thing happened with Quora, iirc. They started offering incentive for people to post a lot of questions, so now the app is flooded by complete junk.

[โ€“] [email protected] 87 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I think there were 0 instances of Quora being useful when I search for things. At this point I just ignore Quora results completely, just because chances are whatever is on there are just shills and word salad people.

[โ€“] MontyVirus 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep. Believe it or not, there was a time when Quora was pretty decent. This is what happens when you try to boost engagement by offering cash incentives. It becomes quantity over quality.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Oh, kinda sounds like what happened to journalism too, eh?

[โ€“] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There was a time, maybe 8-10 years or so ago, when you would actually find good and well-reasoned answers from qualified people on there. But now it got so bad that I added Quora to my search results blocklist addon.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

what addon is that ? I still remember when Google removed the option to ignore sites from their SERPs!

[โ€“] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Quora became king of useless answers after Yahoo Answers died. They were Quoronated, if you will.

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Now they need to be quorantined

[โ€“] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

my school bully on the school computers

Types out question while snickering:

vulgar"How to eat your own hand and feed your poop to barney"

Searches and finds

vulgar"Dora sits on a live garnade and it goes up her butt"
Followed by uncontrolled laughter and mabe a response.

If anything scares me, its him

[โ€“] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If I said this on Reddit, the demographic probably wouldn't have got it, but maybe most folks here will:

Quora is just the new Yahoo Answers.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Feeling old yet? ๐Ÿ˜—

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A friend (asshat bully) used to talk on quarra/yh-answers back in the 2010s, he used it like urban dictionary, that kind of toxic (fun?)

"How to make barnie's head explode?" And other fun goodies

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Honestly the most I've seen Quora used was by an immigrant at work as basically his preferred social media.

[โ€“] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I wonder if after this Silicon Valley realizes that there's no infinite growth/money/potential and stops trying to position shit as such. Just make a product that holds up and doesn't fold like a house of cards when it finally is being monetized.

Edit: And as a totally separate point, think about the mods! Loads of more work and zero pay while spammers "get rich".

[โ€“] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

No. There's too much money attached to it to stop.

The reality is, the Valley is capitalism on speed, but it's still capitalism. All the underlying mechanisms are the same as in the "conventional" economy, just turned up to 11.

[โ€“] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Edit: And as a totally separate point, think about the mods! Loads of more work and zero pay while spammers โ€œget richโ€.

"Those are landed gentry. We the King of Reddit, Steve "Jailbait Mod" Huffman, are free to decide whom We shall benefit".

On the Silicon ~~Hole~~ Valley: they're probably aware of that, so the strategy is to cash out before you hit the cap.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Because people don't live that long, stay in the same place long enough to suffer their own short term consequences.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They can wait you out. They also make others usefull idiots that install their computers that do things for their true masters. They get others to violate your rights.

"Smart things" rant: Ads can be thoght of as propaganda, psycological war tactics. "Smart" things are pushed on (at least) amaricans really intensely. Building these really sexy displays as close to the front as possable (pushing unsposored otems to the unsexy isles) showing this omnipotent caring girlfriend in a small box some come with a monitor. Saying "Hi, im alexa. This is a small but high quality speaker I can talk to you from... (im verry buisness casual but will show my compassion)" Thats the carrots, what about the sticks? Its Burrying the inventory or the idea of the non "Smart" products. "People are too stupid or lazy to look for whats not right in front of them" - some psycologists... I think . The idea that your security cameras need to be "Smart" or it will be bulky and the footage is going to "the cloud" because where else would you put it? A cheep flash drive?

[โ€“] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

1 bot reposts something.

1000 more bots upvote and give it awards to get it on front page.

Take cash

Repeat

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

This was already happening without the "direct from reddit" incentive. I can't imagine how bad it's going to get