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No bigotry rule? (lemmy.ca)

submitted 2 years ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Hello,

I was wondering how this rule is enforced.

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[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

@MapleEngineer

It seems to me that Socialism is predicated on theft, which Libertarians find abhorrent. Is there some cognitive dissonance going on here?

cc: @samael

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How is it theft that the people who do the work enjoy the benefits of that work? Why should the wealthy get 99% of the benefit of the people's labour? That's theft. Libertarians DO find theft abhorrent but the people who call themselves libertarians now are Prosperity Libertarians who are to libertarianism as Prosperity Christians are to Christianity. They are NOT libertarians.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@MapleEngineer

I think you have committed the “No True Scotsman” logical fallacy.

cc: @samael

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I guess we're done then.

Have a good day.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 years ago

@MapleEngineer

Thanks for the conversation.

cc: @samael

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Socialism is the belief that the product of labor belongs to the people creating it- Workers.

And not to the capital owners who contribute nothing to production.

In that frame of view, the Capitalists steal surplus value from the workers - The difference between wages and the value of product. And as such, taking back the means of production & the spoils of the capitalist parasites isn't theft, it's reclaiming of one's rightful property.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@BloodForTheBloodGod

Capital can consist of saved earnings. It is OK to steal such capital?

cc: @MapleEngineer @samael

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

That's not what capital means. And frankly, the 0.0001% of the time when someone invests something they've actually earned, I don't care.

We reclaim the remaining 99.999998% of capital for the working class, and I think that's a solid place to start.