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[–] gravitas_deficiency 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not to mention, the governmental policy and structure work themselves. And the governmental structure and policy changes made by Erdogan are more or less what the EU wants fixed (e.g. erosion of judicial independence and rule of law; imprisonment of political opponents; strong democratic process that operates without internal interference). Sweden will abide by the letter of the agreement, as they should: they’ll help Turkey improve their EU bid. It’s just that “improve” absolutely encompasses moving that accession bid from “lol no” to “pretty goddamn unlikely but technically not impossible”.

Erdogan will probably be sore about that later, but he’s really only got himself to blame. If you wanna be in a club that has a rule where you’ve got to be a full and thriving democracy, it’s frankly stupid to be surprised when they won’t let you in because you’ve stopped being a full and thriving democracy. And the club members are under no obligation whatsoever to help you pretend that you are a full and thriving democracy when you clearly aren’t.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Basically we agreed to put in a good word for him. "Hey, let's consider letting Turkey join the EU." "Lmfao no". "Welp. We tried."

[–] gravitas_deficiency 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that’s my read on it, pretty much.