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Obviously I can understand why mysoginists are hated upon, As their belief is all women are trash or men are superior etc. But why are incels also generally hated upon? They are lacking in a way that makes them unable to gey in a relationship, but that shouldn't necessarily mean they are mysoginists, right?

What am I missing here? I haven't ever had a relationship with a woman, but I don't hate all women either. I just consider myself unlucky. Does that make me an incel?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (13 children)

I'm sure there is a load of political world-building around it in little corners of the internet but for most people 'incel' is a just a byword for a creepy and desperate guy. If you're creepy and desperate you are therefore an incel. You're saying you're not like that though, so you must not be an incel. It takes a lot of effort as a young man to maintain an immaculate record of never being horny and lecherous, so you might actually be an incel sometimes too. My advice as an older guy is to just not worry about it. I see a lot of young guys on the internet worrying about never getting a girlfriend and blaming themselves. Just be patient and nice to girls and eventually you will get into a relationship. It is basically that simple.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (12 children)

I really don't think you understand how bad it is. 30% of young men are in a relationship, while 65% of young women are in a relationship. Makes things pretty difficult, you see.

This comment is basically the equivalent of telling a depressed person to just be happy.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Where did you get that stat from? With the lopsided numbers I would wonder how accurate it is, or if there is a difference in how men and women classify "in a relationship".

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The lopsided numbers reflect younger girls being with older guys who are outside of the quoted age bracket. It's pretty much been like this for all of human history. At the end of the day, the biggest 'losers' in this game of musical chairs are older women. So, the fairest way of making sure that everyone gets matched is to put the old single women with the incels.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

As an older woman, I can testify that we totally won the game. We're out loving life while everyone else you mentioned lives in a strange combination of fear, avarice, and disappointment.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Then the incel's quest must continue!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Saying what probably causes the numbers to be lopsided is really not the same as citing a source.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Either it's the way I said it, or there are billions more lesbians in the world than we ever could have known, or there are billions of guys in the world who have more than one girlfriend. Unless of course we've been misled and there are in fact billions less girls in existence than we thought.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Or, and hear me out, the statistic is just something some guy on Lemmy said and was never substantiated and is (at the very least potentially) unreliable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

It might be and we are all fools. Wouldn't be the first time I guess. But more importantly: who would have thought that incels are accidentally helping the general population to practice interpretation of statistics? Not me!

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