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[–] [email protected] 50 points 6 months ago (4 children)

This is literal child abuse. Really how does any FBI agent or supervisor think this is a desirable outcome? What kind of people are they?

[–] its_prolly_fine 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This took place in Australia.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh thanks! At least the judge basically dismissed the case. Probably wouldn't have happened in the US.

But their excuses are insane. "Yeah this 13 year old kid with an IQ of 70... there was nothing anyone could have done differently!". I suspect this is more motivated by bullying or abelism, basically a type of fascism to shit on mentally sick people.

[–] its_prolly_fine 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The crazy thing to me is the superior officer who signed off on it said he would do it again. That countermeasures haven't been working. He still thinks he was right and did a good thing

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The breakdown of morality begins when they agree to enforce drug laws.

Drug laws violate human rights. People whose job it is to put on a uniform and enforce those laws, start every day with a cognitive dissonance between these two statements:

  • Adults should be free to do as they see fit so long as they don’t hurt others
  • My paycheck depends on me preventing adults from using drugs

There are only two ways to resolve that cognitive dissonance:

  • Quit your job as a cop and find a job that adheres to “right livelihood”
  • Disintegrate your conception of human rights into “anything goes so long as the paperwork supports it”

This means 100% of the people involved in drug enforcement are either monsters already or they’re moral cowards on the downhill slide to becoming monster.

Anyone with integrity either quits, or makes so much trouble they get fired. Those who work in cooperation with the evil system can only do so by systematically weeding goodness out their own character.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Adults should be free to do as they see fit so long as they don’t hurt others

The "primitive morality" that arises out of human tribes and game theory is one of cooperation / competition. Tit for tat and all that. So anything you do that hurts the overall productivity of the tribe is "hurting" the tribe. They see junkies as unproductive, exploiting charity or prone to crime.

Of course I'm not subscribing to that, but there is another interesting connection: The kid is autistic or a "retard" in their eyes, and bullying I believe comes from an evolved social behavior to "weed out the weak". Fascism codifies this as "natural order".

This is speculation but might explain the internal rationalization of the cops.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Our cops in Russia have been doing that for years as well. They groom whole groups of teens like that. Absolutely mental.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Create a problem, then be the solution

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Humans have a state that is driven to hurt people. When a person who’s not a psychopath finds their self in that state, their first move is to find justifications for the damage they want to do. That’s how non-psychopaths indulge in the urge to hurt people.

Law enforcement, by being a profession that involves hurting people for the right reasons, lends itself very easily to providing justification for hurting people for the wrong reasons.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Thanks, this is an interesting explanation. Do you mean sadism? Or something slightly different, a need to see justice done, like "justice porn"? Or something like wanting to see some kind of order in the world through violence?

I think there is a very primitive drive in humans who want to "remove the weak link" and drive out the village idiot or "retard". An ugly reproductive strategy that helped the tribe to stay stronger which explains some impulses for bullying. This is of course unscientific speculation.

But I can imagine that impulse might have played a role to go after this autistic child.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Quick correction: This took place in Australia, not the United States or one of its territories.