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What in the hell is happening? It’s like the more we progress socially the more the religious zealots get to go fucking crazy.
let's not go crazy here, this story is from Utah. Utah is basically full of religious zealots and has absolutely not progressed socially in the last two decades outside of maybe Salt Lake City.
You gotta remember, there are two Americas. Rural America is closer to a fundamentalist country in the Middle East or Africa.
Religion has had a stranglehold on society for millennia, and now that their power is slowly fading away as people turn away from it they are lashing out.
They're too short-sighted to see that this behavior is only going to push more people away from them and hasten their decline.
Ironically the religious view that evil exists in certain types of people is something that I've recently adopted.
Really? Over the last decade or so I've moved more towards a material conditions view, where material conditions is inclusive of neurotype - some people are naturally high anxiety, low openness, high purity sense, and high traditionalism, and that's not something they have direct control over - and even if they did, they wouldn't have control over the algorithm that drives them towards a given set of values for those parameters, and even if they did, they wouldn't have control over the algorithm that decides which algorithm to use for deciding which algorithm to use for deciding those values, ad infinitum. The buck grounds out in things outside our control.
I've never seen this line of thinking as useful. For practical things-- the actions you take and the beliefs you express-- their effect is not connected to whether you're a conscious, free-willed entity, or whether you're a collection of chemical and physical processes that emulates the first option.
It's the same argument as "I have no free will, so it's not my fault I'm committing this crime." Ok, well then it's also not my fault that I'm arresting you.
In short, just because you can explain why a certain action is taken, that doesn't mean that the action is justified.
I would suggest that on the contrary, it suggests a useful point of intervention. A great deal of crime descends from poverty. If you don't like crime, you could focus on it being about the individuals committing the crime, or you could focus on fixing the poverty. Doing the former has gotten us the highest proportion of our population in prison in the world, higher than any police state that I am aware of.
If you're using it to diagnose or study and not to justify then yes it's an excellent tool.
I think of myself as a consequentialist. I care about outcomes, and having an understanding of the inputs and the function gives you much better control over the outputs.
This is fascism, the religious bit is really just peripheral. They believe in inequality based on some kind of identity.
Many religions don't teach homo/transphoba, much of the world's homo/transphoba comes from a particular set of religions.
Ur-Fascism.
Libertarian capitalism created the perfect breeding ground for fascism.
This always happens when society starts to see a shift. It sucks but it's also a good thing in the long run. Just the angry dying gasps of a cult that we don't need or want anymore.
I mean... There was a commercial for Jesus on Hulu earlier today lmao. They're losing it