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[–] [email protected] 50 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"It’s known that they are quite antisemitic and it’s no secret, and maybe that’s why a strong game is expected"

That's the full quote from the israeli player from before the game.

[–] LopensLeftArm 46 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Ah okay, that makes some more sense. I wouldn't want to shake hands with folks who slung slurs at me out of nowhere either! It begs the question as to why they called them anti-Semetic in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 100 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Largely because of ireland's history of being brutalized in their own home, they have consistently had the strongest support for the palestinian cause in all of europe. The israeli player was almost certainly mischaracterising support for palestinians as antisemitism.

[–] LopensLeftArm 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ah yeah, that makes it much easier to identify the AH here, thanks!

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago

NP! This story is fairly easy to understand with a little context, the lack of it in most of the reporting is quite glaring.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The Israeli player was culture washing. The Palestinians are a semitic people.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Pardon the copy/paste:

Antisemitism is understood to mean prejudice against Jews.

Semitic languages is the formal name for the branch of the Afroasiatic language family that includes modern Hebrew, Arabic, Amharic and ancient languages like Akkadian and Phoenician.

Semitic people isn't a term that anyone uses for real, but if they did it would refer to peoples who have traditionally spoke semitic languages.

It's frustrating that the term antisemitism refers to prejudice against only a specific subset of the peoples who would fall under the semitic label. But deliberately misunderstanding the term antisemitism is also quite frustrating.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Rather than deliberately misunderstanding, maybe they are trying to reclaim it in response to its widespread misuse in recent years.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 9 months ago (1 children)

To be clear here, "Anti-semetic" is the slur, not whatever imagines slight Israeli players accused Ireland of.

[–] LopensLeftArm 26 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, exactly. Whipping out a charge of anti-Semitism against folks who just don't happen to agree with how your government is handling their business is absolutely a slur.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

handling their business

It's okay to say "committing genocide."