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Why would they use lead based solder? Oh right, it's cheaper.
Cheaper, easier to work with, melts at lower temps, flows better, take your pick.
That being said, why they aren’t spot welded is a mystery. I suppose solder is a better connection, but still. Why take the chance?
For the price they charge, they should use higher quality materials.
Agreed.
Looking at the lead from this link someone posted below - that isn't something you can spot weld. Generally I'd say soldering can create air/liquid tight seals, spot welding can't.
It's pretty goold solder too.
On the outside of the cup, at the bottom, under a plastic cover, where what you intend to drink will never reach?
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/stanley-cup-lead/
Who cares?
Maybe people should start worrying about the solders on their plumbing first...
Humans are too shortsighted not to go extinct....
You ever washed anything in your kitchen sink with other food containers? Some people do and that would immediately put lead residue all over your other surfaces that should be food safe. And also it will absorb through your skin when washing...
Maybe the weirdest corporate dick sucking ever.
I 100% agree, lead & similar toxins have no place around our food & water. People use "broken" cups all the time, especially if that damage appears to be purely cosmetic. This will result in people being exposed to lead. It is irresponsible to incorporate lead into food, water storage containers.
Everyone disagreeing below: weirdest corporate dick sucking ever.
Precisely!! Not sure how this is remotely controversial
It's under a plastic cover at the bottom, no water is supposed to go in there unless your cup is broken.
Most of the shit I ever bought has broken at one point or another.
Well that's when you're supposed to get rid of the cup because... Well... It's fucking broken!
From what I understand, it can easily be thought of as some exterior part that's not important. A visual piece. It would still hold water fine.
I'd be amazed if you've never used something that has some small plastic piece break but it still functions fine.
So as long as people throw away something that still seems useful, they won't get lead poisoning. What a great way to view the world. You should run the FDA!
If that part breaks, they’ll replace the cup for free
They shouldn't need to. They should never have included a known toxic material in a drink container
We include toxic materials in all sorts of things that we regularly consume, this is one of the least dangerous ways to do it. I get being against all of it, but I’d start with trying to remove the lead paint in Baltimore, which affects thousands of children a year.
Lead paint has been illegal for decades. Why are you whatabout-ing this with things done in the past? It's a lot easier to simply avoid doing a new bad thing than it is to go undo a million instances of bad things done long ago.
The lead paint is still there and landlords are still profiting off of buildings covered in it without sufficient penalties to stop.
I just don’t think it’s nearly as big a problem as it sounds like it is- I’m not saying people should go out and buy one, but it’s almost certainly not going to harm you, so you don’t need to throw one out if you already have it*
Edit: maybe do throw it out because of the nickel
Yeah that's just a separate issue. Obviously it should be addressed it's just not relevant. We can care about multiple things.
Of course we can, and again, I’m not trying to get people to buy them. I just don’t think the lead’s really something people need to worry about. Hell, it sounds like the nickel would actually be the big problem with these cups.
Fascinating.
I usually touch the outside of the cup with my lips when I drink, but I'm weird like that.
Do you touch the bottom of the cup, on the outside, under the plastic cover?
Yeah, maybe with my hands, if the plastic cover falls off cause someone ran it through qn overloaded dishwasher.
Look, can we just not have poison in our drinkware? I don't feel like that's an unreasonable request. Someone else mentioned that it's not intended for hot beverages, and will leech nickel into your coffee if you don't read the warning labels.
While people are worrying about this, they fill their glasses made of actual glass with water that probably comes from copper pipes with lead solders... Maybe they should start worrying about that first, but who am I to tell?
Stupid is as stupid does. Flint, MI, is still dealing with the fallout of lead in their drinking water.
Maybe Stanley should start putting uranium in their cups, too.
I'm sorry, is glass toxic?
It's under a plastic cover at the bottom where no water can enter.