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[–] coffee_poops 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No. Their behavior is self interested. That's Evil. Didn't matter how they envision it or whether they have a personal code. If their personal code places the needs of others and the general welfare in a place of high importance then they are Good. Chaotic - Lawful merely describes the methods they're willing to pursue to achieve those goals.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Self-interest is not evil. Self-interest is a core trait to surviving. Egocentrism is abrasive but also isn't in itself, evil. An egotistical hero is still a hero even if they save people only for the sake of getting credit for it.

[–] coffee_poops 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Listen. You need to go out and touch some grass. No one is making a moral argument here. We're debating a game's alignment system and how to understand it. In terms of the game's systems, self-interest is evil. Devils are extremely self-interested and do nothing for the greater good or general welfare.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes and I think you have no idea what you're talking about so take that grass touching advice for yourself and stop replying to my comments with the dumbest shit I've heard on this site. "Self-interest is inherently evil!" the fuck it is.

[–] coffee_poops 3 points 10 months ago

Look, I'm an atheist so I don't believe in evil. That being said I'm not 13 so I also don't have a hard-on for Ayn Rand to the point where I get enraged when other people talk about self interest.

I never said anything about it being "inherently evil". You're putting words in my mouth. You'd realize that if you actually took some time to cool off.

In the context of D&D, how self-interested a character is determines their moral alignment. It's a loose description of a mechanic.

No one is making claims about the real world.