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How is reddit post protest, did it really win over protesters? Did the ones who left make a dent? Or like all things before, did it ultimately do nothing?

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Inertia will carry them pretty far, and I'm sure they'll find some way to increase profits — most likely by changing the rules to the point where the site and community is unrecognizable. It will take a while before anyone really notices, and many people probably never will. Reddit will continue boiling the frog indefinitely in search of profits, the same way most social media corps do. Today's YouTube is nothing like what it was when it became popular. Same with Facebook, same with Twitter.

Reddit just needs to pivot before they fall. They probably are in good position to do so, tbh.

There's more money in passive, less-savvy users. The ones who don't use ad blockers, don't use third-party apps, and just consume the feed.

I shouldn't be surprised that Reddit is actively alienating people like me, because people like me do not bring them ad revenue. We DO bring them users, in theory, because we contribute to conversations and make original posts — you know, the things people go to Reddit too see — but what does that really mean for the bottom line? Possibly nothing. There's no shortage of posts on Reddit, many of which never see the light of day because they never get the upvotes. If the top contributors leave, it will just create more room at the top. The feed will remain full, and the subjective quality of that feed probably won't affect the bottom line very much.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I agree for the most part, but the one thing that I think they'll have trouble with is bots. I think they truly underestimate the work that mods and contributors did for free in raising the quality of content, and now they have to build the plane while it's flying after having booted the ones building it off, and now it's just pilots and passengers. Those uniquely impactful few that have been brushed away will hurt the most in a brain-drain kind of way.

[–] Mystical_Toe_Cheese 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Are there less bots here for any specific reason? Or will bots start to run rampant here as soon as the Fediverse becomes more popular?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Bots on Reddit for example did farm karma to later sell those accounts (more karma makes accounts look more legit) or circumnavigate karma thresholds to spam. There is no karma here so that's (hopefully) not going to become a thing.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I see no reason why they couldn't. There's even built-in support for bots in the user settings, at least in Lemmy.

Like on Reddit, it will take some moderation to keep the more malicious bots under control in the Fediverse.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I'm not informed on the topic by any means, but my take is reddit should be less susceptible because they have the resources to combat bots and spam -- or at least empower mods to do so -- but they choose not to. It's pretty surprising to me that they cut support for critical mod tools like Pushshift without having a replacement ready to go. The mod support posts only spoke of tools/capabilities they were planning or committing to, or links to "we want to help" pages. Lemmy is probably more susceptible to bots, especially now, but I think a lot of that up-to-date expertise of how to spot bots is coming over with the new wave of membership. Plus, I don't know if or how bots would be worth it here aside from trolling.

tl;dr I have no idea

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