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[–] mindbleach 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But if you think a surgeons first operation is on a live human, you are wrong. They train surgeries beforehand.

Read what I fucking wrote or don't talk to me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think you didnt get the point. The act of surgery itself is akin to a skilled bricklayer. It is a craft that is improved by experience primarily and all the best grades and knowledge in the theoretical parts cannot guarantee that someone will be a good surgeon, if they lack the talent for the hands on part.

[–] mindbleach 1 points 11 months ago

The point is that bad bricklayers still get to lay bricks, and it's not a huge deal. Any rando can do a half-ass job and in many situations that's just fine. Surgery never works like that. There are no some-guy-with-a-van... hospitals. You can't fake your way through an appendectomy with a Youtube video and seven trips to Home Depot.

For the final time: no shit experienced tradesmen have significant skills. That's never what this label is about. Experience is the polar opposite of the problem. You landed right on the actual issue, whilst chiding me for something you imagined I missed: "skilled labor" is when you require immense training, beforehand.

The concept being addressed is not skill or labor. It's skilled labor. Auf Deutsch, it'd be a compound word. You can't separate the components of that label and pretend you're still talking about the same fucking thing.