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Unless you own the building, you are not obligated to take care of this, the landlord is.
If they aren't doing that, report them to the city.
Good looking out for your neighbors, but don't let your landlord neglect shit.
Edit:
In the United States, the Americans with Disabilities act requires landlords to provide their tenants with a habitable place to live (because that's what they're paying for).
Additionally, if anyone slips and falls on a property, the owner is legally liable. Those are facts: It doesn't matter how you feel about them, they are what they are.
Downvoting the person informing you won't change anything.
Downvote away if it makes you feel better, but if you're a landlord, maintain your fucking property and take care of your people! Don't be a piece of shit slumlord.
Can definitely be part of the rent contract though
Mowing and shoveling is standard lease stuff where I live.
(But not things like clearing gutters or worrying about ice dams)
Really? Can I ask where that is, because that sounds crazy.
Madison Wisconsin USA
I guess every area has it's own weirdness.. in my part of California, we have to provide our own refrigerators for our rentals! What!
That is obviously VERY jurisdiction-dependent. I'd be willing to bet it's not even true in all US states, but nothing even makes me think that OP is necessarily American (I'm assuming you are because only Americans assume "the law" is universal).
Where I live I'm pretty positive that in a non-shared living space (i.e. a house) this would fall under reasonable maintenance like mowing the lawn, raking up the leaves, or cleaning up the sink. Is the landlord expected to drive over on every snowy day to shovel up the sidewalk? Fuck landlords but that's definitely not a good use of anybody's time.
Yep, I took a wild guess that they were American (possibly Canadian) because they're on sh.itjust.works (hosted in NA) and the time they're posting lines up with those time zones but you're right: laws vary from location to location.
All states are subject to the Americans with Disabilities act (which is federal), so if they're in America, it really is on the landlord to provide them with accessible housing.
Additionally, if anyone slips on a property, the owner of that property is legally liable (though in theory, insurance would cover most of the costs). If the owner refuses to pay for the resulting injuries, they can be sued in civil court and will likely lose.
Edit: Downvote all you want but thems the facts, clicking a button on the Internet won't change it.
That's gotta be a local thing. I have a hard time seeing landlord snow removal making it into federal law (assuming you're American).
If a disabled person lives there, then (in the US) landlords are legally obligated to provide the disabled renter with a habitable living space under the Americans with Disabilities act, which is federal.
It's also worth pointing out, that anywhere in the US, if a person slips and falls on your property you (but mostly your insurance company probably) are responsible. So the landlord is open to additional liability there even if there are no local laws regarding snow removal simply because they are the owner of the property.
Great point in that first paragraph. In the second paragraph, it's my understanding that you can't sue if there was no expectation of safety. If the path isn't cleared in the slightest, then you're not liable. I also know that in some areas the owner can just write into the lease "you guys have to clear the snow" and it becomes the tenant's responsibility.
Anyway, fucking, clear your sidewalks people, be nice.
You can sue for literally any reason you like in the US. Doesn't guarantee success of course and you might even end up being liable for court costs in addition to your own lawyer (if you hire one) but even if the lawsuit fails, being sued is a pain in the ass to begin with so why even open up the opportunity? Just shovel the damn snow or hire someone to take care of it especially if you are renting to disabled people.
Slumlords will downvote but fuck those assholes.