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[–] SuddenDownpour 101 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (20 children)

Humans are rationalizing creatures, much more than rational ones. Our first gut reaction is trying to make sense of why we think what we think and why we behave how we behave, rather than trying to figure out if it does actually make sense. If this natural tendency could be changed, the world would be far less of a shithole.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (7 children)

We're also to some extent innately combative creatures. People will say "Oh, I showed people the facts and they still didn't change their mind. They're just idiots stuck in their ways." Okay, cool. When you tried to present these facts, did you do it in such a way as to treat them courteously or as an equal, or did you do it in such a way that you got to feel like you were dunking on them rhetorically? Because it's not as simple as presenting someone with facts. It's doing so in a way that doesn't make it feel like you're trying to establish some kind of superiority over them. Because then they're not presenting facts to you, they're just attacking you and your position. And these are very different things, conceptually and emotionally.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (6 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Just putting this here for giggles, I don't disagree with you lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oh I'm sorry, is this a five minute argument, or the full half hour?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oh, just the five minute one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Just the five minutes. Thank you. Anyway, I did.

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