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Does Lemm.ee plan to de-federate from instagram threads? (lemm.ee)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I cam here to get away from all the corporate BS, but suddenly people want to welcome Facebook/Meta to the fediverse? I cannot fathom how people see their intentions as pure or innocent, especially since they aim to profit off of the open source software everyone has worked so hard on.

I just don’t see how the fediverse survives if it decides to let these massive companies make their instances. It feels like it’ll be a repeat of the rise of social media, where all the smaller forms got wiped out by large, consolidated social media platforms.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"The Fediverse promise is one where the user has the power today." ftfy

The concern people in the fediverse have with companies like Meta joining, is that:

Embrace: they will "start off" by making the fediverse easy to access for the masses. There will actually be great growth in the fediverse. People will flock to Meta as their choice platform because they will be faster and more reliable than self-hosted fediverse servers.
Extend: Big companies will begin to introduce new features, some of it will be added for the open source community to use. Eventually, there will be new proprietary features added (integration with WhatsApp for example) . This means that Meta's Fediverse will be different from the open source fediverse. It'll probably start out as something innocent like "needing a Facebook account to post a message / comment in their channels." Then it gets worse...
Extinguish: Now the masses have flocked to Meta because it's fast and stable. This results in many/most of the Self-hosted services to become extinct. Then Meta starts to add more" security", like a fediverse "reputation". Meaning, if your self-hosted service submits "enough" posts/comments that are not spam, then your allowed to read/post on their platform. This means if your self-hosted and/or a smaller member you will be barred from accessing/posting content. Thus, the fediverse is now owned by big corps and you need to use their platforms (and watch their ads or subscribe) to access content.

Source: Compare the history of e-mail (the original fediverse) before Gmail and Hotmail compared to what we have today. I (as an individual) can run my own mail server, but most of my messages will be marked as "spam", if I send it to a friend who has a Gmail address, because my reputation is too low. This forces me to "pay" for email.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Setting up an email server at home is almost impossible because domestic ISPs block port 25 and you need a reverse DNS to make your mail look legit. But set up a mail server on a leased VPS it's not a big deal if you know your way between SPF and dkim.

Running a legitimate mail server is hard because of SPAM, not because of corporate greed.