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I'll go first. Mine is that I can't stand the Deadpool movies. They are self aware and self referential to an obnoxious degree. It's like being continually reminded that I am in a movie. I swear the success of that movie has directly lead to every blockbuster having to have a joke every 30 seconds

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 9 months ago (19 children)

Tarantino is overrated. You have to watch a lot of movies to come to this realisation, because otherwise you don't realise his movies are often in large part a collage of other movies. Movies which did what he does better. That means that it doesn't actually matter that Tarantino is overrated for most movie goers. More generally, this is why critics' opinions don't actually matter that much. They've watched too many movies and likely know too much about movies, to tell the average audience goer if they'll enjoy a movie.

Once you've watched a few thousand movies, and especially if you've ever studied film or read a few books about it, you'll often find you enjoy interesting but shit movies more, than very well made but unoriginal movies. People who truly love film, invariably aren't snobs. They enjoy absolute trash, they enjoy arty farty stuff. If someone has a related degree or even a doctorate or works in the industry, the likelihood is high that they're also a fan of B-movies. They don't need to pretend to be knowledgeable, because they are. A film snob will bore you with the details of a Tarkovski movie. A cinephile is more likely to bang on about 80s horror movies, lesbian vampire sexploitation movies, Albert Pyun's Cyborg, or Troma's The Toxic Avenger.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Do you have a recommendation for a book that'll turn me into a cinephile?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Oh, wow. Old comment.

The easiest route to learning about movies, is to watch a lot of movies, and reading about the movie you've just watched. Wikipedia, a more in depth review, interviews with people who made the movie (not just the actors).

Google a top 100 list. Work your way through a few of them. Eg.

https://www.bfi.org.uk/sight-and-sound/greatest-films-all-time

They also have cool features. For example, Michael Mann's made a load of really cool action movies. Here's a feature on his movies they made:

https://www.bfi.org.uk/features/where-begin-with-michael-mann

Or here's famous critic Mark Kermode's top 10 of horror movies:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qdj_22hHRyM

Yes, he has a PhD and is a member of the British Academy of Film and Television Arts, the UK equivalent of the Academy of Motion Pictures. No, he's not a snob. Texas Chainsaw Massacre's in the top 10. So are some older classics, which are still good.

But if you want to read something, you could try:

Bordwell and Thompson. Film Art: An Introduction.

David A. Cook. A History of Narrative Cinema

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Wow, thank you so much for all the recommendations! I sometimes feel like I don't know how to watch certain kinds of movies (e.g., older movies, or more artsy movies). I hope reading up a bit will help me appreciate them more

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