this post was submitted on 04 Jan 2024
108 points (94.3% liked)

Fuck Cars

9583 readers
186 users here now

A place to discuss problems of car centric infrastructure or how it hurts us all. Let's explore the bad world of Cars!

Rules

1. Be CivilYou may not agree on ideas, but please do not be needlessly rude or insulting to other people in this community.

2. No hate speechDon't discriminate or disparage people on the basis of sex, gender, race, ethnicity, nationality, religion, or sexuality.

3. Don't harass peopleDon't follow people you disagree with into multiple threads or into PMs to insult, disparage, or otherwise attack them. And certainly don't doxx any non-public figures.

4. Stay on topicThis community is about cars, their externalities in society, car-dependency, and solutions to these.

5. No repostsDo not repost content that has already been posted in this community.

Moderator discretion will be used to judge reports with regard to the above rules.

Posting Guidelines

In the absence of a flair system on lemmy yet, let’s try to make it easier to scan through posts by type in here by using tags:

Recommended communities:

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They have less drivers and more pedestrians. Pedestrians aren't the issue, it's the drivers.

Their infrastructure, in cities especially, discourages driving and encourages walking/cycling/public transport. Other places make their infrastructure car first. Too much traffic widen the roads, add car parks and remove walkways. These make more driver that are less empathetic to pedestrians as they have less experience as a pedestrian. They also encourage bigger and higher vehicles that are more deadly on impact.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

More pedestrians means more people about for drivers to kill, though. The Netherlands still has a lot of people driving.

It's less about driver empathy, and more about traffic calming. Bollards, chicanes, speed humps at intersections, etc. Streets that don't feel safe to speed excessively on. Not making everything a shitty stroad, but having better differentiation between streets and roads.

Not just bikes has a pretty good YouTube video about stroads vs Dutch streets and roads