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[–] BigDanishGuy 39 points 7 months ago (2 children)

While in the EU Teslas were already "banned", if you want a proper cat B license, and not just a cat B(78). If you take the test in a car with automatic transmission you get a code 78 license, with which you can legally only drive automatic transmission vehicles.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (8 children)

Is the EU mostly manual transmissions?

In the US, seeing a manual transmission these days is somewhat rare. I used to work at a car dealership's service department as a valet, and most of us younger guys who'd never driven a manual before had to get someone else to drive it whenever one showed up. (That happened maybe once a month or less.)

[–] BigDanishGuy 11 points 7 months ago

Manuel transmission used to be the norm. The last couple of times I rented a car/got a loaner at the mechanic, I was asked if an automatic would be OK. I have met people who avoid automatics altogether. Probably because they're unsure of how to drive them. TBF the first time I test drove an automatic, the first stop I made, I was glad to be wearing my seat belt, as I was used to use left foot, push that pedal hard and then brake... My wife and I were almost climbing down from the dashboard after that.

When I said earlier that manuels used to be the norm, that's because of the emergence of EVs and PHEVs. Our EV was our first car with no clutch.

Sooo after writing that boring drivel above, I decided to look it up on the most used second hand car platform. Turns out the about half the cars registered as pure ICEs are automatics. But then sampling the search results it's evident that a lot of the cars on the first page, have been registered wrong, and are in fact hybrids. So I don't have a solid figure. I've loitered the sales floor of my mechanic for 30mins, while my car is in for diagnosics. Looks like about 3 out of last 20 or so ICEs I've looked at are automatics.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I live in the UK, I've only ever driven manuals. I know one or two people with automatics, wouldn't fancy having one myself though. I feel like the manual shift gives me more control.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I prefer manuals, they're more fun to drive, but the future is inevitably automatic with EVs.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

Yes Europe is mostly manual. You pay a heavy premium to get a car with automatic transmission. Anecdotally, I bought a Skoda ~5 years ago and had to pay ~20% more for automatic transmission than manual.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Had a quick look at used cars here.

https://www.ooyyo.com/france/used-cars-for-sale/c=CDA31D7114D3854F111BFB6FAA651453/

Seems very much dependent on which country you're in. France seems 50/50, Germany a lot more Automatic, Belgium prefers manual. Been to Iceland a few times and that is mostly automatic. The UK is mostly manual.

[–] fruitycoder 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I was even told that my insurance would be lower because manuals were harder to steal because so few people can drive'm.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

I wish that was true in my city. I love driving the manual shift car but it certainly hasn't saved us anything on car insurance. The idea of a car thief who can't drive stick shift is so funny, needs a movie. The only benefits beyond fun and not worrying about an automatic transmission failing is some odd respect from valet guys and mechanics and old men.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Nah, automatic are common.

The reasoning is, if you know how to drive manual you also know how to drive automatic, but not vice versa.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm an American living in Denmark. Everyone here knows how to drive them even if their current car is automatic. They are becoming more popular, though.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 7 months ago

Of course everyone knows how to drive an automatic, there is nothing to learn if you already know how to drive a manual. You just push the pedal and the car moves.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Used to be, but the transition to mostly automatic is happening as we speak