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[–] [email protected] 115 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

They're public employees. Their privacy is non-existent while on duty. There is actually no reason for police radios to be encrypted. The only reason police feel even a modium of responsibility to the public is because they are able to be constantly watched by citizens, and their unencrypted comms is an important part of that.

ETA: I get what you were saying and adding onto it, not trying to contradict

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Their privacy is non-existent while on duty.

True, but your privacy exists even in this case.

There is actually no reason for police radios to be encrypted.

Actually I can think of a couple of reasons.

One is that this way the parents of a violent crime or lethal incident victim can be informed about the condition before the press publish the news. Last year we had some cases here in Italy where the parents of people who passed away for some incident/crime discover it from the press even before the authority had time to inform them.
True, in this case is the press that is in the wrong, but they could do it because they had access to the communications.

Another is that maybe it is not a good idea to let criminals know what the police are doing to catch them.

BUT I understand your point given the news about US police I read around.

What I think about it is that if you think that all the US police officers are bad then I agree that the not having access to the radio communications can be a problem. The solution however is not to keep the communications open but to fix the US police.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

In that case the records need to be auditable, e.g. available for subpoenas and all that. But given the frequency of their body feels suddenly "malfunctioning" during arrests, I don't see that happening in the shower term.

What we need BEFORE encrypted comms is stronger accountability laws and harsher punishments for police brutality.

Otherwise I won't buy the "protect and serve" excuse. They just want to save their own asses.

[–] korfuri 1 points 10 months ago

It's worth noting that in Italy, police communications are encrypted (they use TETRA radios, like most police forces in Europe). I'm not saying it can't help prevent this, but when weighing the cost and benefits of encryption for police radios, we should take into account that this benefit is not absolute.