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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In the UK when there's a green man (pedestrian crossing signal) it means that all traffic is stopped, and (though not officially recommended) you could cross diagonally and it'll be fine. In the US and some other countries, it doesn't seem to have that meaning, so other traffic may still have a green light or be allowed to pass a red light where pedestrians are being told it's safe to cross.

Pedestrians very often get the green walk sign at the same time as cars in the same direction get the green straight ahead sign that implicitly allows right turns as well. In that scenario, the cars are often located just behind the pedestrian’s peripheral vision, and the cars are looking up and ahead at the light

It seems to me that that's the wrong way round, if there's no pedestrian crossing it's safer to cross when the traffic is moving from the left-right of you than in front and behind you.

My suggestion is that pedestrian crossing signals should stop all car traffic in the junction and if no signal exists the guidance should be to cross where the traffic is visible (left and right) not when it comes from behind you.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Obviously it depends on the junction, but for anyone who's not familiar with UK crossings here's a touch more context:

It's not necessarily all traffic at that entire junction, just traffic going across that specific crossing point that's guaranteed to be stopped. So if there would be the possibility for a turn onto a road that has a green pedestrian light either all the traffic going that way would be on a red light, or there would be a filter light where only the relevant traffic (straight or a turn) would be on red.