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Giving Trump 'absolute immunity' would encourage presidents to do crimes, former Republican officials tell court
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It's wild that Republicans are trying to impeach Biden while simultaneously insisting that Trump should be immune from crimes committed while in office.
I get that impeachment isn't a legal process, but the idea that they wanna open that door just to save their guy - and still pretend like Biden is a criminal and that should matter to voters - should tell anyone everything they need to know about the party.
Republicans are no longer a legitimate party. If someone tells you they are republican probably best to avoid talking to them about politics. It means your friend or loved one is either stupid or a racist sexist homophobic piece of shit. You have to love them anyways, but just best not to talk about politics.
More than likely they’re both.
More than likely they’re both.
And then you go "why do people not vote for my guy :(" when inevitably republicans win. It's because of democrats attitude like this - push away, reduce to "stupid, racist, sexist" and refuse to even give a valid argument.
If you prefer to hang around racists, fascists, misogynists, science deniers and say it's better than hanging with the people at the opposing end because at the opposing end they believe in that one thing you disagree with then no, you don't deserve any consideration.
I wonder how many such descriptions republicans have for you, and how many reasons to not hangout with you they create, as you do now. How about treat people for who they are, don't group into tribes and move everything to the extremes? Not everything is as black and white as you'd like to believe. Not every democrat is a good guy, and not every republican is a bad guy.
Go read on the Nazi bar paradox.
There is always an adage, warning or "paradox" to explain everything. I've heard the "penny wise, pound foolish" right after the exact opposite saying which was basically "who doesn't save a penny, doesn't have a pound".
The "nazi bar" is basically a slippery slope fallacy. First of all, not every republican is a nazi, just as not every democrat is violent antifa. All it is, is as I mentioned - tribalism to dehumanize "the other" to simplify a worldview. You don't win votes by dehumanizing people.
Name me one elected Democrat that could be considered an antifa.
Anyone that is anti facism is antifa, by the definition of the word. Also "dance for me monkey" much?
You seem to think being against fascism is a bad thing. That is why people are calling you a fascist.
No, I am against calling every republican / conservative a fascist. Just as I am against calling every democrat "violent antifa". In your post, you exhibit the exact same thing I am talking about in this thread - reducing a person to "fascist". Especially for stating such simple claims as "don't divide into shitty tribes".
The difference being that Republicans actually have a candidate (their main candidate in fact) saying that he'll be a dictator for a day and they have elected people supporting him.
Meanwhile the Democrats are all right of center by the standards of any other western democracy and none of them are far left or promoting totalitarianism or other extremist ideals that are associated with what people talk about when they mention "antifa".
I never was talking about candidates - I was talking about "republicans". Regular people like you and I, just having other issues be the ones they focus on and vote for.
Also, let's not act as if candidates for both republicans and democrats aren't pieces of shit. The best choice right now is third party anyways.
That's what I'm saying, if you support fascists then you also are a fascist.
By your logic, Biden is a fascist. See how looking at the world in absolutes doesn't make sense?
No dude. I think you're too slow for this conversation. Thanks for trying though.
Thanks for insulting me and proving my exact point.
If you aren't anti fascist you're pro _______
Fill in the blank with the correct answer
"pro bubblegum". What's with you and demanding to fill stupid blanks, name democrats to bring everything to an absolute?
It is fucking hilarious that your brain couldn't fill in the blank correctly lmao. Children and dementia patients get that one right Hahaha.
Thanks for proving my point exactly.
Same, I guess lmao.
Crazy how quickly someone who refutes generalizations and tries to avoid a polarized view of politics can be considered a fascist in some circles.
The decline of democracy and the rise of fascism might be a big menace in the contemporary world, but the fact that it's becoming impossible to express a nuanced opinion is not far behind.
The thing is theirs are always misrepresentations outright lies or propaganda. Whereas Democrats at least, and I am not a Democrat, tend to be based in reality and facts largely.
The best and only defense for Republicans/ conservatives ever have. Is that "sure. Our policies always focus on and hurt minorities and out groups explicitly. But that doesn't make us bigoted against them." Despite it actually making them bigoted against them.
Shocking that a fascist is defending fascists
Fascist? Lmao.
I've seen your rhetoric.
Oh hey you're one of those stupid people they were talking about.