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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I tried to point this out on Reddit and Lemmy so many times and usually got downvoted. People want to believe there's some nefarious boogeyman buying up houses and keeping them vacant, but the reality is that virtually all homes in Canada have occupants. We just don't have nearly enough housing for the population.

Edit: it's still happening. In the other thread on this board about this article, people are saying "it's not the foreign buyers we should tax, it's the corporate buyers". People will do all sorts of mental gymnastics to avoid considering the possibility that we need to densify our housing.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

We need to change the ways we build our cities. The suburban experiment has failed and we need to address that. Commiting nearly every scrap of residential zoning for exclusively single family homes has had massive impacts on the urban fabric of our cities, the scarcity of housing, and the dependance on cars.

We don't need to eliminate all single family homes, but we do need to make it possible to build multi-residences and mixed use areas. We also need to address how we tax residential properties because as it stands, single family zoning is often subsidized by the denser areas of the city.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

but the reality is that virtually all homes in Canada have occupants.

Vancouver and Toronto are currently sitting about 7% and 7.4% homes that are empty or not for usual residents. That's a fucking massive number, imo.

Source: https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/astonishing-drop-in-number-of-empty-homes-in-metro-vancouver-census

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Okay and you could have 50% more homes available if 20% of the SFH in a city was converted into apartments. 7% is nothing if we actually would densify what we build rather than just sprawling suburbs.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago

Sure, but let's not pretend it's not an issue.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"empty or not for usual residents." is a useless metric. Student houses are considered "empty" if the the students have a family home to return to and haven't updated their mailing address.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wrong. It states directly in the article that students and foreign workers are not included in that metric.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The usual residence of students is that of their parents, if they return to live with their parents during the year even if they live elsewhere while attending school or working at a summer job.

From Stats Canada.

Students are usual residents of Canada, they're not usual residents of the place they stay in while studying in school.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Students and workers from other countries with study and work permits are considered usual residents, according to StatsCan.

Directly quoted from the source I posted.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That's why I clarified how you misinterpreted that sentence, and gave you a source from Stats Canada. I also worked the last census in KW, where there's a large student population, so it was drilled into our heads students only count if they live in that house year round (and preferable changed the address on their ID).