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[–] OnlyTakesLs -5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Its actually not. Theres worse places. Chiraq is a funny meme though.

I think the point of this is Santuary Cities, all of them, arent having to deal with the problems that they inflict on others, and this fixes this little oversight.

Eventual hope is they finally call to secure the border.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I've always thought that bussing migrants to sanctuary cities would've been a boon to Democrats. It's basically a chance to show conservatives how to govern effectively and productively with diverse populations rather than race-baiting, which they're so fond of.

But really, all of these problems stem from the U.S. obsession with free markets and privatization. And most of democratic political leadership are as in love with this stupid, self-defeating paradigm as the most libertarian conservative politician.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes this seems like a problem to me: axing almost all social wellness programs, together with privitizing and commodification of everything possible, criminalizes poverty. It's like punishing people for the situation you've forced them into. Makes no sense to me, but some people get rich off this system so they like it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

? Are you in the right conversation ?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I understand this may be hard for you to follow, but I am blaming Robert Mundell, Arthur Laffer, and Ronald Reagan for the droves of immigrants at the border, the hordes of homeless in the streets, and the erosion of American society in general.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Ah yes the classic blame Reagan. Gotcha.

[–] OnlyTakesLs -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Fucking Reagan? This was decades ago.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yes, and it's been decades that central america has been fucked up beyond belief, thanks to US intervention. There are still people alive suffering ptsd from the fucked up shit that went down. Decades of the war on drugs and intergenerational trauma and messed up economy are still having an effect. The evidence is that people are so desperate they are willing to risk their lives and walk 3000 miles and hide in a river from gangs and ICE, just for a chance to get a taste of less fucked up America.

Meanwhile in the US, neoliberal policy that started with Reagan has continued for decdes has meant no mental health or any healthcare except for the wealthy, decades of the systematic erosion of workers rights and devaluation of labor, also decades of the war on drugs. Republicans and democrats alike have carried on these policies and while the GDP has risen, wages haven't. In 1981 the average hourly construction wage was $10.82 an hour, last year it was $18.75. the GDP went from 3.2 trillion to 15.4 trillion.

Last paragraph I promise: According to this pubmed link:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2221566/#:~:text=In%20the%201950s%20and%201960s,cheap%20hotels%20on%20skid%20rows. "In the 1950s and 1960s homelessness declined to the point that researchers were predicting its virtual disappearance in the 1970s. Instead, in the 1980s, homelessness increased rapidly and drastically changed in composition. " Closing all the mental hospitals and kicking the patients out on the street was the beginning and it has gotten worse since then. Reagan. Yeah that was decades ago, and america is still paying the price for the trickle down economics that never trickled down.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The problem is the blue cities don’t know how to govern. Look at the crime rates and how they struggle with a few immigrants.

I am not sure what the free market has to do with the situation. The issue is we need to stop them at the border and stop letting people in that can’t support themselves.

We could solve this easily by building detention camps in the desert. Hold them there they see a judge.

The long term solution is changing our immigration laws to allow more people in.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

People have a tendency to focus on cities, but because of population density it is a less accurate indicator of systemic problems.

These five states had the highest homicide rates in 2021:

  1. Mississippi
  2. Louisiana
  3. Alabama
  4. New Mexico
  5. South Carolina

https://usafacts.org/articles/which-states-have-the-highest-murder-rates/

I see red

[–] MomoTimeToDie 0 points 10 months ago

I get that you're not the brightest, but states are not, in fact, cities. Absolutely mind blowing, I know.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Really the south side and west side are like a war zone. Otherwise the city is fairly peaceful before the summer of love.