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Apple’s MacBook Pro memory problem is worse than ever::Apple still sells expensive "Pro" computers with just 8GB of RAM and charges a fortune for more.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago (5 children)

I mean, I get why people don’t like it but at the same time, no one forces you to buy one. I like Macs, I enjoy using OS X and would use it as my primary OS. I don’t because I don’t find the value proposition of their hardware worth it.

Their loss, they have a market, they just aren’t interested in it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Their loss, they have a market, they just aren’t interested in it.

They are very interested in your money and parting your money from you.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Capitalism is as capitalism does

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I'm kinda of in the same boat.

My "main" computer is a M1 iPad at this point. It's fast, and I can do all my day to day things on it. If I want to play games I do have a PC for that, but Windows isn't that "pleasant" to use so I don't spend much time with it beyond games.

I was reminded how much MacOS is just a pleasant experience a couple months ago when I found a sale for old mac minis. They had a 2014 model for $60. I put a new SSD in it, and I'm typing on that machine right now. It can get Monterey, but nothing newer. But that still lets me send texts, and the machine unlocks with my watch when I wake it up.

All that to say is: I've now been looking at buying a brand new Mac Mini, but the memory and hard drive charges are insane. They always have been, but it's just ridiculous at this point.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You can look into this if you want to upgrade to a newer macOS.

https://dortania.github.io/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Thanks!

I feel like I remember seeing this project right when I got this computer, but I didn't look too far into it. I'll have to check it out.

I do have a little worry that running the newest MacOS would make this little, old mini run pretty slow. I need to do some research.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I have the same mini which runs Sonoma like a champ. OCLP is a wonderful tool.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Yeah. I use a MacBook for its build quality and being UNIX (cough Windows cough), plus some niceties like iCloud, but the RAM cost is insane.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I really do one want but can’t justify €1800-2000 for one or even €3500 if I actually get the one, I want (14 inch screen).

I can get probably a better laptop or PC with lower costs. Plus I have been told that unfortunately MacBooks don’t do well with Excel (still sad about this).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

MacBooks don’t do well with Excel

I'm curious about this. My past experience with Office 365 is that the apps works better on MacOS, but maybe it's short on more advanced features, like complex macros?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

So I’m studying Finance with a mix of Accounting and I have been told that MacBooks don’t have the “ALT” key which is a key button for Excel in terms of shortcuts.

As well as what you said probably certain advanced features might not be available. But I’m not certain about this because never had a MacBook.

As well as a software called Power Bi doesn’t work well on MacBooks (slow, freezing or straight up not working). My friend had this issue in university and was forced to use my laptop to do the models.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Macs have an alt key, it's just called option. https://cdn.osxdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/option-alt-keys-apple-us-keyboard.jpg

Most key combos are slightly different on mac though. Windows has a lot of ctrl or alt + key combos, Mac largely just has them all done with the command key. But that's obviously down to the developer, they could do whatever they want.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I have been told that MacBooks don’t have the “ALT” key

Correct. Almost all apps use the "option" key on a Mac, which is not a key on Windows keyboards. It more or less is just a change in the key name for most apps. I just tried using it in Excel to create a new line in a cell, and it has the same behavior as the ALT key on a Windows device.

As well as a software called Power Bi doesn’t work well on MacBooks (slow, freezing or straight up not working). My friend had this issue in university and was forced to use my laptop to do the models.

Third-party software compatibility is obviously going to be an issue for some software on MacOS.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

The whole thing boggles my mind. Keep in mind that a good number of “Pro” users are corporate types running PowerPoint and Excel but certainly wouldn’t stoop to using a consumer model.