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[–] [email protected] 62 points 11 months ago (15 children)

Maybe he would have had a chance as the bad guy if he wasn't defeated in the first movie by someone who picked up a lightsaber for the first time.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (4 children)

They explained that in context. He told Rey she needed a teacher, and she used the Force Knowledge Extract trick he unwittingly taught her when she was a prisoner.

Watch the fight again... She's getting her ass kicked, doesn't even know how to hold a lightsaber.

"You need a teacher..."

"You're right." Closes her eyes, force downloads the techniques Matrix style, THEN kicks his ass.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Also Ren had just killed his own dad and survived being shot by a gun that launches everyone else it hits clean off their feet. He wasn't exactly on his A game for that fight and the film made that clear

[–] MostlyHarmless 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Even wounded he could have force choked her walked over and stabbed her through the guts with his lightsaber.

This would be a much better ending, because we all know getting stabbed by a lightsaber in Disney Star Wars is barely a flesh wound and she could be back for the next movie.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

But he didn't want to kill her, he wanted to turn her to the dark side.

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