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Just use LTSC 2019 or 2021, it's more or less the same thing.
Definitely not the same thing, Ghost Spectre is a massively cut down & optimized version of windows, while LTSC is just a slightly debloated & near no updates version of windows.
For example, Windows takes about 42GB to install- while LTSC takes 40GB, and Ghost Spectre- 9GB. Ghost Spectre also comes with a toolbox that gives massive user control over customizing their OS.
You call no apps at all slightly debloated? Lol, that's what takes over 70% of the space in Win10/11. What else would you like to remove, everything else is actually needed and/or could be needed.
And it receives only security updates. Same as Win7, LTSC editions are frozen in time when they were released. They get no feature updates, just security updates.
What :O... a 40GB LTSC install??? What in the hell did you do to that LTSC install man, lol :D.
The screenshot above is from a fresh LSTC 2019 install. It's almost 14GB in size. Noting installed, just the OS. Plus, you can cut down even on that, cuz it probably has like 2, 3GB or so in updates, so realistically, just the bare bones install is about 11-12GB.
We have reg entries/batch scripts for that. Why in the hell would I want to run something that is sketchy at best and I really have no idea what it actually does. It's enough that MS already does that with Windows, now I have to also risk installing/modding something that I have no idea what it will install or modify. What if it's crypto miner/malware? What if it's a keylogger?
No thanks, I use my own scripts and I know exactly what they do.
Huh, I suppose the video review I watched on youtube was wrong about the size of it then...
I tried finding this out on my own but couldn't find a single video or screenshot showing how much ram & cpu usage LTSC used while idle, could you let me know?
Afaik Ghost spectre uses 1.1 GB/8GB & cpu utilization @ 0~1% on a ryz 9 5980hs
If Ghost spectre was running malware, especially a crypto miner there's no way the pc would run at low resource intensities- a keylogger is the only thing that could possibly slip under since it requires little to no resources to run.
About 1.1 to 1.2, 1.3GB. Less than Pro, but can't compete with any Linux distro.
You're right about the crypto miner, but the keylogger is a realistic possibility. I've ran into so many script solitions and some of them did actually have malware (I can't always read a 2, 3MB script, that's just way too much code), that I decided to make my own scripts and use those instead.
Do you know where can I find a download for LSTC 2021? Do you know if it's available to purchase a key through the windows store or something like that? I did some googling but all I found was possible ways of getting volume keys for enterprise usage.. Which I mean is kind of what it's for, but I would like to try it for myself.
Apparently its only sold to companies, there is no way to purchase it legally as a private os...
Yeah, I can give you a download link. PM me on Monday (tomorrow), I have the ISO's at work, not home.
You can't purchase a key, LTSB/LTSC editions are meant for coprosations only. You'd have to be a private entity in order to buy a license and they're through the roof expensive. Just use KMS38 on the install, it'll activate it permanently (till 2038, but that's almost permanently, considering LTSC 2019 is supported till 2029).
Ever since 10 came out, corps and enterprises didn't like the point release model because that often breaks things. They wanted something feature fixed that did the job, like Win7 was. MS enduldged this wish (seing as how corps and ents are one of their biggest customers regarding Windows) and made Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB 2016 (Long Term Service Branch). In 2019, they released Win 10 LTSC 2019 (changed the acronym to Long Term Service Channel). Both LTSB 2016 and LTSC 2019 have a 10 year support cycle - they get security fixes and crucial updates in the next 10 years. In 2021, Win10 LTSC 2021 was released, but the support cycles was reduced to only 5 years (for this and other future LTSC releases), meaning both LTSB 2016 and 2019 currently have a higher life span than LTSC 2021.
The LTSC releases are not that different from regular Windows releases. They're basically like Windows 7 releases, fixed in features. The other big plus is that they come with no apps and no way to actually install apps whatsoever (MS store missing completely, corps don't actually need that, they need for the installs to do one, two jobs perfectly, and that's it). They have a higher price tag because they're basically what server versions of Windows look like (and they coniside with the server releases as well), but have no server manager and are marked as workstations.
Simply put, you get a workstation OS with no apps, frozen in time, only security updates, nothing more. It was how their previous release model used to look like, before Windows 10, which is why LTSC releases are appealing to certain types of crowds, including myself (all my Windows installs sre LTSC).