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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (9 children)

Just so long as we realize that forcing other countries who are unfriendly towards us is a similarly magical solution. We cannot control the globe. The UN cannot. China cannot. People get to make their own decisions, whether good ones or bad ones. I mean, we can't even rein in our ally Israel from hurting themselves when we want.

So if we pump all our effort into some kind of possibly unrealistic hope that global carbon neutral is possible in time, and then we fail ... it's just too perilous. Other methods need investment and attention too.

None of our possible solutions are without a little "magic", so maybe we should diversify our efforts a little. That's the gist of it imo.

Unless there's a proposed solution somewhere I don't know about, that has realistic details on how to successfully negotiate these deals. One made by people in the field of international politics, preferably, who know how to consider things like money earmarked for one thing being stolen by someone greedy. Which happens all the time, even in the US.

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