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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Illegal immigrants actually pay into state and local taxes way more than legal citizens and green-card holders do.

And since they're here undocumented, they can't get anything in return for paying those taxes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I looked up the numbers a while back but this 2017 study says at least 50%, meaning the majority pay taxes.

https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-state-local-tax-contributions-2017/

Also, note that only 59.9% of households pay taxes, which means legal status isn't that important in terms of whether people pay taxes or not. They also won't likely get any social security money either.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

They pay more huh? That's some magical shit right there lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They pay more if you consider that they frequently pay SS with no payout for them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

How does it work btw? Do you come to your country's tax authority and say "hello, I'm here illegally, can I pay taxes" ?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

You file your taxes under a special SSN that begins with a 9 that is given to you by the IRS specifically for filing.

https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/taxpayer-identification-numbers-tin#itin

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And you're not immediately arrested for, like, illegally working or potentially illegally crossing the border to begin with?

Or is it like taxing criminal activity, simply a loophole to make charging them easier?

[–] funkless_eck 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

a) different departments, tax department doesn't deal with immigration law

b) government likes money more than it likes fairness, as should be obvious looking at... yknow... [gestures generally]

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I see, thanks!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Whenever they get a paycheck from a legitimate business, they're paying into those taxes.