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• A new Android app called Beeper Mini allows users to send iMessages as blue bubbles from non-Apple devices.

• Beeper Mini bypasses traditional iMessage hacks by directly sending iMessages from Android devices.

• The app has been praised for its smooth functionality, sending messages seamlessly between Android and iPhone users.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (4 children)

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"

It's obvious they're restricting the quality but it could be that they implemented the MMS handling in 2008, when other phones could only support 3gp and the carriers couldn't handle high bandwidth. I'd bet they haven't bothered to update it since, and do the absolute bare minimum to keep it compliant with the carriers.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

With all the so-called innovation and their absurd price tags , you'd think they would've updated it in the last 15 years

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Intentional ineptitude resulting from malice is still malice.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

My Treo on Verizon in 2006 could send 10mb videos.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Over MMS? Without quality loss? To someone not on the same network?

No way was Verizon allowing 10MB videos over MMS in 2006. They don't today. And that was the really early days of MMS when you were lucky if anything got delivered.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

As I said, on Verizon. May have forgotten to say to other Verizon phones.

And yes, they did, and the do. I can send 50mb videos over MMS to Verizon iPhones. I've done it. Last time was last year as another test.

Verizon doesn't seem to have an MMS limit.

But keep on gaslighting me and telling me I didn't perform this test between a Verizon iPhone and a Verizon Android that I control.

The iPhone receives the video just fine. You can even see the size of the video. But when it sends it back, iOS butchers the quality.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's not gaslighting to be skeptical. There's way way too much misinformation, guesswork, misinterpretation, etc happening in this thread . Yeah, I'm real skeptical. I even sent you links from Verizon about their limits that you've ignored. That's not "gaslighting".

Verizon says they currently supports 100MB MMS if you're using their proprietary app. What are you using? And you're not using RCS for this "unlimited" Verizon->Verizon texting you've done recently (since you're saying today they support unlimited)? That also seems weird.

I can also send a 50MB file over ATT MMS. It doesn't arrive 50MB.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I just had my Samsung-using friend send me (Motorola) a video on MMS . The quality suuuucked. We're both on AT&T.

Its totally valid I think to blame Apple for not supporting RCS earlier (and for their reasoning behind it - platform locking). But blaming them for MMS quality sucking is pretty wrong. That's almost entirely on the carriers.

Edit: actually I'm not even sure it's fair to fully blame Apple. Google is supporting it via their Messenger but only because they're paying for a ton of the infrastructure themselves (and likely justifying it by scraping every single message people are sending with it). Carriers have been notoriously bad about supporting it.

Might be more valid to blame Apple for never opening iMessage to other platforms. You could also say the same about other messaging system interop limitations, too.