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So I've been iso live testing Manjaro KDE Plasma lately and it looks very polished.

On the other hand, there is a negative vibe towards it.

Why the hate?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am currently using Manjaro as my main Laptop OS.

Most of the hate is philosophical based in small often overlookable facts. And how Manjaro uses/is compatible with the AUR. There's a whole github dedicated to the communities complaints here: https://github.com/arindas/manjarno

While I can see why many don't like manjaro, I personally see these complaints as a way to evaluate the company to see if they improve.

My experience with Manjaro is about 1-2 years now. And the OS is very stable, honestly more stable than my brief time with Fedora.

But I did break a lot during that time including my DE. However as long as you are careful on where you install from, the distro will be stable.

Install order

  1. Official Repo - this is delayed by a few weeks to "validate stability", one of the sticking points for the community

  2. Flatpak

  3. AUR - due to the delayed official packages some AUR packages won't update immediately, or will cause conflict when they are.

AUR support is honestly the only valid issue with Manjaro. Due to the delay AUR packages will break as older dependencies aren't being updated causing a large string of removals which can cause stability issued in Manjaro.

My recommendation is to avoid the AUR unless the package isn't found elsewhere. Which is a problem if you installed Arch for AUR. Thus EndeavorOS is preferred.

But for my usage I prefer the graphical interfaces for all setting. With the exception of GRUB, there is a GUI for everything and you won't need to touch a terminal.

With that said, you may want to look into OpenSUSE or Fedora/CentOS, and they are similar in terms of GUI settings. And are a little safer since OS level packages are behind another package manager.

But at the cost of less software. For me I'm stuck with Manjaro for now, and as soon as Slimbook battery is officially on Fedora trying that out again.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I have something like 70 AUR packages on Manjaro and doing fine. Yes, they break every once in a while. They break on Arch too.

The thing is, you have to update AUR packages. They're compiled against a certain system state and they will break eventually as the system updates. This will happen with source packages on any distro. It has nothing to do with Manjaro.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Are you saying that as an Arch user or a Manjaro user? Have you ever used a different Arch distro? I am just wondering how many of the “other Arch distros are just as broken” people have actually used both. I have used several. In my experience, Manjaro stands alone in terms of the number of problems I have had. I guess I am just unlucky.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I'm saying that your problems are with AUR not Manjaro. It's entirely possible you stumbled across some AUR packages that at a given time didn't play nice with the official packages. The AUR is huge, it can happen.

But it could have also happened on Arch proper, two weeks earlier, no? The official packages were the same at that time.

I think you were put off Manjaro because it happened while you were on it and if you were to try again it could be different. But once we catch a bias against something it's hard to revisit it.

I'm biased against Ubuntu and love Debian, for example, even though I realize that my issues with Ubuntu had to do with the way .deb repositories work and could happen with Debian, or that done of the things I disliked were just defaults that I could (and did) change.

Ultimately it's as much a question of chemistry or vibing with a distro as with anything, and sometimes it helps to move to another distro even if they're closely related under the hood.