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I think it's uncontroversial to say having your life taken away constitutes suffering, unless you're undergoing some extreme torture by staying alive, and causing suffering like that is inhumane. Just saying that you do it humanely doesn't really change anything tangibly.
It doesn't cause suffering to end a life unless that life is aware of its fate and becomes stressed out, or if that death leaves behind loved ones to grieve. Chickens don't grieve.
How are you so sure they don't grieve? They form social relationships, they defend each other, they groom each other, they cooperate. They have complex vocalisations, they warn each other even when they themselves aren't in danger.
Why are you so confident they feel nothing when a friend dies? why are you so confident they don't feel fear as you kill them?
https://www.chickenfans.com/do-chickens-mourn/
https://backyardfarmlife.com/is-your-chicken-sad/
https://bestfarmanimals.com/why-is-my-chicken-dying-everything-you-need-to-know/
https://backyardhomesteadhq.com/chicken-feelings-do-they-miss-each-other/
You wouldn't believe how quickly I found all that! The other thing is: if you applied that logic to people, it becomes problematic very quickly, and there's nothing about animals that precludes them from deserving the same hesitancy around those problems.