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I'm not against bootcamps, but there are so many caveats.
Most bootcamp instructors have no business teaching. They have no qualifications for it, and rarely have the experience to teach the subject matter.
Many bootcamps are owned by agencies or companies looking for cheap labour, with many making false promises on employment - because they give them a temporary contract to get cheap devs. It was painful to see so many bootcamp grads last year, entering an empty market.
They are often very expensive, to the point where I've worked with people woefully unqualified, who put up with so much shit because they're in debt. They were promised a career, only to be taught just enough to do basic tasks in React, and then being limited in what they can do.
You end up with a horrendous amount of imposter syndrome, in an industry where people already feel like frauds.
I'm in the UK, and you wouldn't believe how many people go to bootcamps and assume we're all making £100k salaries. Hell, where I live, I regularly get roles for senior engineers that are £40k a year. A woman I used to work with gave up her £30k a year job to be a front-end developer for £20k, with zero benefits, no union, etc.
Hey, just a question, if you don't mind. I don't know anything about unions. I'm assuming that they're kinda like an NGO, and to be a supporting member, we are supposed to pay a monthly fee. Do core union members (aka activists, leaders) earn this way? Because they won't have time to apply for normal jobs, if they're busy managing union, right? Or do they not earn, but instead do normal jobs while managing unions in parallel?
My bootcamp had pretty great instructors, but also a focus on learning how to teach yourself. It was a bit longer than some because it was full stack. I think it's like university, you get out what you put in. Some folks got nothing from it, I did great. Got my first job for 70k the same week I left. 5 years later I'm making over 160k.