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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Just for a little context, keep in mind that "military aid" be it to Ukraine or Israel is almost entirely spent in the US. We ship missiles and bombs from stockpiles, and pay Raytheon to make some more.

So this money is being spent to the benefit of Americans, just the military industrial folks and their shareholders.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's still resources that could be spent towards something else, something ultimately more productive.

Building a house takes a lot of work, so why spend that effort into building a bomb that destroys many such houses, instead? What does this achieve for humanity?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Because building houses lowers the value of all the real estate the wealthy already own.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The good old "military industrial complex" 😑

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Worth mentioning that there are well paying, stable jobs in the MIC for the other 99%. I work for a sub (in IT, and spend most of my time on the commercial side of the business) in such a company. While I resent our biggest revenue maker, it does enable the company to fund scientific research and commercial space endeavors.

I wouldn’t call myself a bootlicker, per se, but I do enjoy my job, despite what I’ve started viewing as a necessary evil — the pay and benefits are highly competitive, I’m 98% WFH, layoffs and turnover are rare (there are regularly people retiring who had entered straight from college and worked directly on Apollo missions), the job is challenging and I’m given a long leash.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"I mean, I know my work contributes to some of the worst atrocities of mankind but they give me a lot of money and benefits for forgetting that I actively contribute in facilitating the slaughter of children which makes it easier to swallow. Also I get to work from home a lot! ❤️"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Eh, that may be how you see it.

Personally I’ve been more directly involved in actually helping people and things go to the fricken moon than I have in all of my defense projects, combined. And space is just one of our cool science markets.

I can do defense stuff, I’m authorized to, in a pinch I can (and have), but I would really rather not. Work on that side of the house sucks.

Nobody likes how the sausage is made, but it’s going to get made as long as someone buying it. I’m not eating the sausage. I’m not buying the sausage. I’m having a satisfying job, managing operations at a small pig farm that also develops new cutting-edge cancer medications inside of pig pancreases. Different group of pigs, though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not so much "how I see it" as it is "how it is" and you don't seem to deny that.

I understood that you prefer not to work on the child-killing devices the first time. Nonetheless all the other "cool science markets" still help your employer make those child-killing devices.

While the sausage will keep being made, I can actively choose not to be the butcher and I'm having a hard time respecting people gushing about their work on the non-butchering side of the same company.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

No, you have it backwards, the child killing devices enable my employer to do the cool science markets.

Revenue from child killing devices and related patents pays for the science research. And as it turns out, a lot of those patents also work really well for the cool life-saving science stuff.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

This is not worth mentioning. Everyone knows that you can sell out your values for money and comfort. Most people just aren't willing to do it for such relatively low benefits.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Did they at least give you a nice dog collar for that leash?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Why not call yourself a bootlicker? I'm sure many would.